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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#81 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:41 pm

What are we seeing here again? The storm gaining more spin? Just wanted to make sure
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#82 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:01 pm

AL, 94, 2022062500, , BEST, 0, 80N, 333W, 20, 1011, DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#84 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:38 pm

I'm still skeptical that this becomes anything crazy, but some of these model runs are pretty concerning. Strong June/July systems are rare but not impossible so this will be one to watch for sure.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#85 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:03 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#86 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:11 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#87 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:53 pm

It is behaving precisely as I expected. Convection is decreasing as it accelerates westward. Best chance of development is west of 70W, though I wouldn't rule out a TD/TS as it approaches the islands.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#88 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:23 am

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Looks like it's definitely taking a shot at trying to "spin" per se
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#89 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:26 am


Yeah usually curved cloud lines on these MW passes is indicative of a formed LLC. Probably a TD already.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#91 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:42 am

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starting to look pretty healthy, good looking Axis
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#92 Postby TallyTracker » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:52 am

NHC is seeing some improvement to the convective structure. Still 60% in the 5 day timeline.


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ABNT20 KNHC 251131
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Tropical Weather Outlook
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800 AM EDT Sat Jun 25 2022

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Tropical Atlantic:
Cloudiness and showers have become a little more concentrated near a
tropical wave located over the central tropical Atlantic Ocean.
Environmental conditions appear conducive for development of this
system over the next few days, and a tropical depression could form
during the early to middle part of next week. This system is
forecast to move westward at 15 to 20 mph over the tropical
Atlantic, approach the Windward Islands on Tuesday, and move into
the southeastern Caribbean Sea by Wednesday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#93 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:24 am

Satellite loop of 94L from Meteosat-11, 94L is the one in the middle I say that as it looks like the next wave that came off Africa behind it is also starting to curl up.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#94 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:35 am

All models are trending south (toward Nicaragua), including GFS & EC ensembles. Not many members taking it into the Gulf now (good). I'd say development chances within 5 days are at least 80% and 90-95% just past 5 days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#95 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:35 am

T number dvorak SSD 1.0.

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (94L)

B. 25/1130Z

C. 8.6N

D. 35.2W

E. FIVE/GOES-E

F. T1.0/1.0

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...GREATER THAN 2/10 BANDING RESULTS IN DT OF 1.0. MET IS
1.0 AND PT AGREES. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#96 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:57 am

12z Best Track:

AL, 94, 2022062512, , BEST, 0, 83N, 353W, 20, 1011, DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#97 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:43 am

Dmin is doing its work, but I can see some kind of spin in there. It isn’t a closed circulation yet, just a step on the way there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#98 Postby WiscoWx02 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:56 am

aspen wrote:Dmin is doing its work, but I can see some kind of spin in there. It isn’t a closed circulation yet, just a step on the way there.


Kinda hard to tell where the actual main circulation is. Looks like there are two potential candidates but because you have the displaced convection to the north this makes sense. This convection is dying out though, which may give the dominant vorticity center a chance to fire new convection and take over tonight or tomorrow. We shall see.

EDIT: Actually, I’m almost positive Bret in 2017 or the wave that would form Bret did the exact same thing. Struggled with deep convection and was very anemic until it reached 55W west roughly.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#99 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:30 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#100 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:52 am

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned on here is that there’s a “cold front” that is scheduled to come through Texas between Sunday & Monday. I assume that this would at least move the ridge a bit to the East or even weaken it a little bit, allowing for a little bit of an alleyway to the NW. Is it possible that the TUTT is the reason why future Bonnie may go into Central America instead of picking up some significant latitude?
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