EPAC: BONNIE - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: TWO - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion
Finds a hurricane lol
This is a joke^
This is a joke^
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Re: ATL: TWO - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion
Looks to have a true closed circulation per recon to finally be classified, about time
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Re: ATL: TWO - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion
InfernoFlameCat wrote:Finds a hurricane lol
This is a joke^
Lol no hurricane, but enough evidence to upgrade to TS Bonnie imo. Still rather broad and could use some tightening up:
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Tropical Storm Bonnie Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022022
915 AM EDT Fri Jul 01 2022
...DISTURBANCE BECOMES A TROPICAL STORM...
Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate
that the disturbance has now become Tropical Storm Bonnie over the
southwestern Caribbean Sea with maximum winds of 40 mph (65 km/h).
SUMMARY OF 915 AM EDT...1315 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...11.2N 80.5W
ABOUT 230 MI...370 KM ESE OF BLUEFIELDS NICARAGUA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 260 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...31 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1005 MB...29.68 INCHES
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022022
915 AM EDT Fri Jul 01 2022
...DISTURBANCE BECOMES A TROPICAL STORM...
Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate
that the disturbance has now become Tropical Storm Bonnie over the
southwestern Caribbean Sea with maximum winds of 40 mph (65 km/h).
SUMMARY OF 915 AM EDT...1315 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...11.2N 80.5W
ABOUT 230 MI...370 KM ESE OF BLUEFIELDS NICARAGUA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 260 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...31 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1005 MB...29.68 INCHES
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Finally!
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Wow about time this got named!
Talk about the nick of time, this storm was trolling us for over a week now!
Talk about the nick of time, this storm was trolling us for over a week now!
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Maybe I've missed it, but as Bonnie seems to keep it's name when moving into the Pacific, will the strength there also count for the Atlantic season. So if it for example becomes a hurricane after passing over Central America and emerging in the Pacific, will Bonnie also become a hurricane for the Atlantic season? I guess the same holds for ACE?
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
15 advisory cycles at a PTC…let’s see if anything else this year tries to surpass that record.
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
aspen wrote:15 advisory cycles at a PTC…let’s see if anything else this year tries to surpass that record.
Well, I thought Alex already was exeptional...
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Jelmergraaff wrote:Maybe I've missed it, but as Bonnie seems to keep it's name when moving into the Pacific, will the strength there also count for the Atlantic season. So if it for example becomes a hurricane after passing over Central America and emerging in the Pacific, will Bonnie also become a hurricane for the Atlantic season? I guess the same holds for ACE?
Good question, I doubt that would be the case, once Bonnie crosses over, assuming it survives central America, the ACE should begin counting for the EPAC. It would be funny if Bonnie became a major in the Epac and robs the atlantic some ACE. I would also think the hurricane tally goes to the EPAC, or both basins if somehow Bonnie achieves hurricane intensity today
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
FireRat wrote:Jelmergraaff wrote:Maybe I've missed it, but as Bonnie seems to keep it's name when moving into the Pacific, will the strength there also count for the Atlantic season. So if it for example becomes a hurricane after passing over Central America and emerging in the Pacific, will Bonnie also become a hurricane for the Atlantic season? I guess the same holds for ACE?
Good question, I doubt that would be the case, once Bonnie crosses over, assuming it survives central America, the ACE should begin counting for the EPAC. It would be funny if Bonnie became a major in the Epac and robs the atlantic some ACE. I would also think the hurricane tally goes to the EPAC, or both basins if somehow Bonnie achieves hurricane intensity today
So there aren't any guidelines for that? Seems like the logical option, but I was wondering if there's really some standard procedure for that.
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Jelmergraaff wrote:FireRat wrote:Jelmergraaff wrote:Maybe I've missed it, but as Bonnie seems to keep it's name when moving into the Pacific, will the strength there also count for the Atlantic season. So if it for example becomes a hurricane after passing over Central America and emerging in the Pacific, will Bonnie also become a hurricane for the Atlantic season? I guess the same holds for ACE?
Good question, I doubt that would be the case, once Bonnie crosses over, assuming it survives central America, the ACE should begin counting for the EPAC. It would be funny if Bonnie became a major in the Epac and robs the atlantic some ACE. I would also think the hurricane tally goes to the EPAC, or both basins if somehow Bonnie achieves hurricane intensity today
So there aren't any guidelines for that? Seems like the logical option, but I was wondering if there's really some standard procedure for that.
There are guidelines. They were enacted for Otto in 2016. Bonnie will effectively become an EPAC storm, and will count towards the EPAC's seasonal ACE counts. Atlantic Bonnie will only be counted as a TS in our basin.
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
aspen wrote:15 advisory cycles at a PTC…let’s see if anything else this year tries to surpass that record.
I hope not!
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Jelmergraaff wrote:FireRat wrote:Jelmergraaff wrote:Maybe I've missed it, but as Bonnie seems to keep it's name when moving into the Pacific, will the strength there also count for the Atlantic season. So if it for example becomes a hurricane after passing over Central America and emerging in the Pacific, will Bonnie also become a hurricane for the Atlantic season? I guess the same holds for ACE?
Good question, I doubt that would be the case, once Bonnie crosses over, assuming it survives central America, the ACE should begin counting for the EPAC. It would be funny if Bonnie became a major in the Epac and robs the atlantic some ACE. I would also think the hurricane tally goes to the EPAC, or both basins if somehow Bonnie achieves hurricane intensity today
So there aren't any guidelines for that? Seems like the logical option, but I was wondering if there's really some standard procedure for that.
It will retain the name but the WMO will still recognize it as an EPAC system after it crosses over (meaning all tracking guidance will be EPAC thereafter). The WMO recognizes 10 regions/agencies for tracking tropical systems:
The Caribbean, Gulf of Mexico, and North Atlantic (NHC/RSMC Miami) - https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
Eastern North Pacific (NHC/CPHC/RSMC Honolulu) - https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
Central North Pacific (CPHC/RSMC Honolulu) - https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutcphc.php
Western North Pacific and South China Sea (JMA/RSMC Tokyo) - https://www.jma.go.jp/jma/indexe.html
Southern Pacific (FMS/Nadi) - https://www.met.gov.fj/
Southern Pacific below 25S (MetService/TCWC Wellington) - https://www.metservice.com/warnings/tro ... e-activity
Southwest Indian Ocean (MFR/RSMC La Reunion) - http://meteofrance.com/
Northern Indian Ocean, Arabian Sea, and Bay of Bengal (IMD/RSMC New Delhi) - http://mausam.imd.gov.in/
Within Australia/New Zealand there are 2 agencies that have different areas of responsibilities
Australian Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre's (TCWC) - http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/tropical- ... /warnings/
Port Moresby Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre - http://www.pngmet.gov.pg/warnings/smartalert/
Hermine in 2010 was the first example of this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_ ... mine_(2010). Here is visually how WMO tracked that crossover:
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Finally Bonnie has arrived. About damn time, now time for a rare feat, a crossover!
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
MarioProtVI wrote:Finally Bonnie has arrived. About damn time, now time for a rare feat, a crossover!
An intact crossover, no less! That would be the first ATL-EPAC intact crossover since 2016 if I'm correct.
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Dear Colin, Danielle, Earl, and the rest,
If you are planning on becoming a PTC, please do not give us wx trackers a big headache like your predecessors Alex and Bonnie did and remain a PTC for multiple days in a row. Thank you.
Sincerely,
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If you are planning on becoming a PTC, please do not give us wx trackers a big headache like your predecessors Alex and Bonnie did and remain a PTC for multiple days in a row. Thank you.
Sincerely,
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Finally. Earlier advisory had landfall in 24 hours but with Bonnie still not really slowing down, landfall will probably be within 12 hours. The Atlantic might be the only region on the planet where storms in the deep tropics move at an unreasonably fast pace.
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Re: ATL: BONNIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Welp, there you go.
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