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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1081 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:49 pm

tolakram wrote:Windex view
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Looks like something on Neptune :D
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1082 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:53 pm

NDG wrote:Very important step to enter the right information into the models every 6 hrs instead of every 12 hrs.

https://twitter.com/NWSSpokane/status/1573696830818263048

That is just wild that Spokane WA is launching balloons every 6 hours for hurricane forecasts
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1083 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:53 pm

Recon found the new developing LLC> right about where it should be and more or less stacked..

it will of course still wobble around quite a bit. likely to the wsw for a time while it consolidates.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1084 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:55 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
NDG wrote:Very important step to enter the right information into the models every 6 hrs instead of every 12 hrs.

https://twitter.com/NWSSpokane/status/1573696830818263048

That is just wild that Spokane WA is launching balloons every 6 hours for hurricane forecasts


We definitely need more upstream data.. clearly the models were overdoing the trough and keeping it around way to long. it has been a pretty progressive pattern until the last few days of model runs.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1085 Postby Blown Away » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:56 pm

NDG wrote:Very important step to enter the right information into the models every 6 hrs instead of every 12 hrs.

https://twitter.com/NWSSpokane/status/1573696830818263048


Stuff like this is the awesome side of social media! :flag:
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1086 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:57 pm

It sure will be nice when Ian goes by a weather buoy that actually works :roll:
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1087 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:58 pm

I wonder when the Weather Channel will begin their 24/7 coverage? I'm thinking by tomorrow night or Monday.... I haven't checked the weather channel in quite some time.....
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1088 Postby SouthernBreeze » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:58 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
NDG wrote:Very important step to enter the right information into the models every 6 hrs instead of every 12 hrs.

https://twitter.com/NWSSpokane/status/1573696830818263048

That is just wild that Spokane WA is launching balloons every 6 hours for hurricane forecasts

We need to know what's coming that could affect this for sure
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1089 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Recon found the new developing LLC> right about where it should be and more or less stacked..

it will of course still wobble around quite a bit. likely to the wsw for a time while it consolidates.


Looks like a mesovort. Structure reminds me of Isaac in 2012 and Elsa last year were the massive convective bursting seemed to fracture the center rather than consolidating it
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#1091 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:09 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1092 Postby AJC3 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:16 pm

How it started...

AJC3 wrote:'The center hasn't even formed yet' talk is quickly on its way to becoming null and void from here on out. In fact, this morning's scatterometer data (13Z-14Z) and satellite derived winds showed a pretty well-defined surface-850MB vorticity center that should have gone into the initialization of the 18Z model guidance, and I suspect it will be at least as well-defined in the upcoming 00Z runs. How well the model guidance initializes it is another matter, however we're at the point now where we have a decent LL center fix to work with.


How it's going... :oops:

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1093 Postby floridasun » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:26 pm

AJC3 wrote:How it started...

AJC3 wrote:'The center hasn't even formed yet' talk is quickly on its way to becoming null and void from here on out. In fact, this morning's scatterometer data (13Z-14Z) and satellite derived winds showed a pretty well-defined surface-850MB vorticity center that should have gone into the initialization of the 18Z model guidance, and I suspect it will be at least as well-defined in the upcoming 00Z runs. How well the model guidance initializes it is another matter, however we're at the point now where we have a decent LL center fix to work with.


How it's going... :oops:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdchKbjWYAcsH5j?format=png&name=900x900

look like other center nw of southern low?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1094 Postby Blown Away » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:37 pm

AJC3 wrote:How it started...

AJC3 wrote:'The center hasn't even formed yet' talk is quickly on its way to becoming null and void from here on out. In fact, this morning's scatterometer data (13Z-14Z) and satellite derived winds showed a pretty well-defined surface-850MB vorticity center that should have gone into the initialization of the 18Z model guidance, and I suspect it will be at least as well-defined in the upcoming 00Z runs. How well the model guidance initializes it is another matter, however we're at the point now where we have a decent LL center fix to work with.


How it's going... :oops:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdchKbjWYAcsH5j?format=png&name=900x900

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What about @15/77 the convection has been bubbling for hours around there?
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#1095 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:37 pm

The Caribbean is doing its usual and keeping the storm from consolidating...By tomorrow it should start showing a clear center as it gets to the W Caribbean...When that happens the models will get a better grip and the steering patterns should have become a little more predictable...

I put off a lot of heavy lifting today but will have more work to do tomorrow if we get a sudden surprise (Euro)...
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1096 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:41 pm

Starting to get some decent inflow and better overall presentation


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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1097 Postby AJC3 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:41 pm

Blown Away wrote:
AJC3 wrote:How it started...

AJC3 wrote:'The center hasn't even formed yet' talk is quickly on its way to becoming null and void from here on out. In fact, this morning's scatterometer data (13Z-14Z) and satellite derived winds showed a pretty well-defined surface-850MB vorticity center that should have gone into the initialization of the 18Z model guidance, and I suspect it will be at least as well-defined in the upcoming 00Z runs. How well the model guidance initializes it is another matter, however we're at the point now where we have a decent LL center fix to work with.


How it's going... :oops:

What about @15/77 the convection has been bubbling for hours around there?


Yep. Peristent shear really caused problems for what had been a pretty well-defined vort center coming off the N coast of SOAM. Obivously, it wasn't (and isn't) done consolidating.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1098 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:43 pm


Looks like it is consolidating nicely just south of 15N.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1099 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:46 pm

tropicwatch wrote:

Looks like it is consolidating nicely just south of 15N.


Sure does. Can’t tell if it’s wnw heading or just a tad north of due west
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ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1100 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:47 pm

The feathery outflow in the south quadrant is not what you want to see in a system about to enter the gunpowder zone...


The hazy airmass up here in SW Florida looks like hurricane plasma waiting to be tapped...
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