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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4501 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:31 am

wx98 wrote:NOAA plane bailed. Going home


Is it the storm? Seems to be a reoccurring theme.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4502 Postby kevin » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:33 am

When are the next recon planes leaving? I expect there to be recon all the way up until landfall just like f.e. Ida last year.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4503 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:34 am

Peninsula side of FL hasn't seen a hurricane this strong since Andrew. You have to go back many decades to find a hurricane this intense approach SWFL.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4504 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:36 am

eastcoastFL wrote:I just got up and I can't not believe that this thing is basically a cat 5. Unreal. Power went on and off during the night but I'd on now. Internet is out. Anyone else around the treasure coast having similar issues ?


Yep. Nice to know xfinity system can't even sustain rain.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4505 Postby Category5Kaiju » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:36 am

I'm honestly flabbergasted by how many Cat 4+ storms in the Gulf have made landfall in the CONUS since 2017. Ever since then, with the exception of 2019, every year has had one of these kinds of storms, and Ian looks to continue this deadly pattern. Unlike years before then, Cat 4+ GoM storms aren't weakening before landfall, they're literally strengthening up until then. Not sure what is causing this pattern, whether it is a property of the gulf itself that has changed or if something in the Atlantic atmospheric state is causing it, but I can bet you that unless something drastic happens, it's likely that 2023, 2024, and so forth will feature at least one of these kinds of systems in their respective seasons.

It's only a matter of time before those maps depicting Harvey, Michael, Laura, Ida, and (now) Ian are going to become totally unreadable.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4506 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:36 am

Wow, pressure continues to drop.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4507 Postby wx98 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:36 am

kevin wrote:When are the next recon planes leaving? I expect there to be recon all the way up until landfall just like f.e. Ida last year.

Next one doesn’t arrive until 1:30 pm EDT
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4508 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:37 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4509 Postby Fancy1001 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:38 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Peninsula side of FL hasn't seen a hurricane this strong since Andrew. You have to go back many decades to find a hurricane this intense approach SWFL.

https://i.imgur.com/wzmq55C.jpg

Do you mean western side of the peninsula, peninsula side doesn’t make any sense since most of Florida is a peninsula
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4510 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:38 am

My cousin sent me this picture of Tampa Bay from Ana Maria Island where he lives, offshore winds have empty it out ahead of Ian.

 https://twitter.com/NDGMETCHEF/status/1575096699583754240


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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4511 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:38 am

Fancy1001 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Peninsula side of FL hasn't seen a hurricane this strong since Andrew. You have to go back many decades to find a hurricane this intense approach SWFL.

https://i.imgur.com/wzmq55C.jpg

Do you mean western side of the peninsula, peninsula side doesn’t make any sense since most of Florida is a peninsula


No, I mean the entire Peninsula. The last hurricane this strong to hit FL in general was Michael in the Panhandle.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4512 Postby Dean_175 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:39 am

Dean_175 wrote:
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aspen wrote:I hate to say it, but this reminds me of Dorian. The incredible eyewall lightning, the incredibly clear eye, the impressive microwave presentation…this is turning into an absolute monster.



I agree. This cyclone could strengthen to 125-130 knots over the next 18-24 hours.


Models seem to be in pretty good agreement that it is going to begin to interact with the upper trough in such a way that shears the convection eastward and pulls dry air in to the west side, resulting in a weakening system at landfall. Sort of reminds me of how Irma weakened as it was pushed into Florida upon leaving the tropics. I think Florida is looking at a cat 2/3 landfall rather than a cat 3/4.


Well I sure blew that one. Aged like milk. I live in Fort Myers. Hopefully it isn't too bad.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4513 Postby ronjon » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:39 am

From radar returns, looks like Ian is getting some dry air entrained on its east and southeast side. Probably the influence of the trough. Hopefully the start of a weakening trend.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4514 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:40 am

Perfect warm core structure extending to 100mb. Confirmed with the cirrus layering on Visible Satellite.
Basically punching thru the tropopause.
Two cold pools below the warm core to the ocean surface. That is the basic mechanism that pulls warm, moist air out of the water. Same as lake-effect snow/precip in the Great Lakes

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... _xsect.gif
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4515 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:41 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Peninsula side of FL hasn't seen a hurricane this strong since Andrew. You have to go back many decades to find a hurricane this intense approach SWFL.

https://i.imgur.com/wzmq55C.jpg

Do you mean western side of the peninsula, peninsula side doesn’t make any sense since most of Florida is a peninsula


No, I mean the entire Peninsula. The last hurricane this strong to hit FL in general was Michael in the Panhandle.


This is basically Charley's larger brother.

Ian is stronger in terms of peak, but in reality Ian and Charley in terms of max winds into SW Florida are pretty close.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4516 Postby lovingseason2013 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:42 am

MetsIslesNoles wrote:I just found out that I have a friend in Englewood that didn't evacuate. Oy. I hope he and his wife end up okay.


I have family in Port Charlotte about 300 feet from the harbor just down from 75 bridge that didn't leave because they felt safe because they are directly on the water, I told them that they are going to be directly on the water soon and then become an island in the middle of the harbor. They just don't understand down there, so many people there went through Charley and think this is no different. They don't understand or comprehend storm surge. The ones that survive will come out very different people after this. I know, I have been affected by every major storm that has hit CONUS GOM since 1995. Either through a friend, refugees, as a survivor of Erin, Opal, Ivan, Sally and Michael, as a contractor that went into affected areas, or as a volunteer to help pass out water, Ive seen the horrors these storms bring. I pray for no deaths and for a speedy recovery for these people down there.

UPDATE: My best friend who is living down there also, I got him to pack up and head out east! Still working on the family.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4517 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:42 am

KWT wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:Do you mean western side of the peninsula, peninsula side doesn’t make any sense since most of Florida is a peninsula


No, I mean the entire Peninsula. The last hurricane this strong to hit FL in general was Michael in the Panhandle.


This is basically Charley's larger brother.

Ian is stronger in terms of peak, but in reality Ian and Charley in terms of max winds into SW Florida are pretty close.


Ian's overall kinetic energy is much higher than Charley. But you're right in that Charley is the closest comparison.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4518 Postby Fancy1001 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:43 am

What in the world is wrong with the planes or equipment over the last few years.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4519 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:44 am

Is one of the recon trapped in the eye? Seems to be just doing circles and the other recon turned away at the same time. This could be getting dangerous with the continuous lighting in the eyewall.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4520 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:44 am

lovingseason2013 wrote:Still working on the family.

Too late, honestly. Probably more dangerous to be on the roads right now because the eyewall is almost on shore.
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