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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#281 Postby Teban54 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:05 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#283 Postby mantis83 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:36 am

good thing it's staying far away from the U.S., it's starting to look really mean!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#284 Postby underthwx » Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:53 am

Looks impressive on satellite for sure, 91L refuses to go away quietly...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#285 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:05 am

Consistent with what model guidance has been showing for days, 91L is now entering very low shear..

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#286 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:44 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#287 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:58 am

91L looks to be right on the South American coast. This is an extremely precarious position for it; just a tiny bit further south, and it could dissipate.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#288 Postby underthwx » Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:43 am

aspen wrote:91L looks to be right on the South American coast. This is an extremely precarious position for it; just a tiny bit further south, and it could dissipate.

Coast huggin for sure...but it's hanging in there this morning, I read in a previous post, that 91L is entering an area of less shear?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#289 Postby underthwx » Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:49 am

Is 91L going to end up in the Pacific eventually I wonder?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#290 Postby Nuno » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:56 am

underthwx wrote:Is 91L going to end up in the Pacific eventually I wonder?


It would be cool to get two crossovers in one season
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#291 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:10 am

aspen wrote:91L looks to be right on the South American coast. This is an extremely precarious position for it; just a tiny bit further south, and it could dissipate.


An impulse with this much energy and this much persistence doesn't just simply dissipate like that though. If that were the case, then storms like Joan or Iota wouldn't have happened in our past despite literally hitting parts of SA in their early stages
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#292 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:22 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Thu Oct 6 2022

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Southeastern Caribbean Sea:
A broad and elongated area of low pressure located over the far
southeastern Caribbean Sea just off the coast of Venezuela
continues to produce an expansive area of showers and thunderstorms
over the southern Windward Islands, northern South America, and
adjacent waters. While land interaction with the northern coast of
South America may hinder significant development during the next
day or so, environmental conditions are expected to be mostly
conducive for development while the system moves westward at about
15 mph, and a tropical depression is likely to form in the next day
or two by the time it enters the south-central Caribbean Sea.
Additional strengthening is anticipated while the system moves
westward over the southwestern Caribbean Sea toward Central America
late Friday through Sunday.

Regardless of development, heavy rainfall with localized flooding,
as well as gusty winds to gale force, are expected over portions of
the Windward Islands, northern portions of Venezuela including
Isla Margarita, the ABC Islands, and the Guajira Peninsula of
Colombia during the next day or two. Interests in those locations,
in addition to those in Central America, should continue to monitor
the progress of this system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...80 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent.

Key messages for the disturbance over the far southeastern Caribbean
Sea can be found on the National Hurricane Center website at
www.hurricanes.gov

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#293 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:23 am

More flooding this morning in Trinidad.

 https://twitter.com/TTWeatherCenter/status/1577997213422292994


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#294 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:28 am

Convection is so deep and persistent this morning that I’m having a hard time believing this isn’t a TC. Is there radar available for 91L’s current location?

This is definitely worth a PTC upgrade based on its organization and how many land masses are in its path during the next few days. I have a couple of relatives who just went to Aruba and are going to be impacted by 91L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#295 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:46 am

AL, 91, 2022100612, , BEST, 0, 114N, 663W, 30, 1006, DB


https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/btk/bal912022.dat
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#296 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:01 am

Still just a disturbance. Disturbances/waves can produce tropical storm-force winds and heavy rain. The Caribbean has been fortunate this season that so few waves have traversed the area. Development likely in 24-36 hrs after clearing Venezuela. Could be a hurricane prior to reaching Nicaragua Sunday evening. Normally, an "High" chance of development would result in the NHC issuing PTC advisories. However, I'm not sure it issues watches for the A-B-C Islands or Venezuela. If not, then no PTC advisory until tomorrow afternoon when it's within 48 hrs of Nicaragua. Doesn't really make any difference if/when the NHC issues advisories, does it? It's heading into Nicaragua Sunday, no doubt about that at all. Could cross over into the East Pac and redevelop there. Still zero threat to the Gulf. Let's hope this ends the season and you can all start talking about freezing cold winter weather and I can say "no cold for you!". ;-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#297 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:09 am

Starting to suspect that this might be a TC. :lol:





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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#298 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:11 am

wxman57 wrote:Still just a disturbance. Disturbances/waves can produce tropical storm-force winds and heavy rain. The Caribbean has been fortunate this season that so few waves have traversed the area. Development likely in 24-36 hrs after clearing Venezuela. Could be a hurricane prior to reaching Nicaragua Sunday evening. Normally, an "High" chance of development would result in the NHC issuing PTC advisories. However, I'm not sure it issues watches for the A-B-C Islands or Venezuela. If not, then no PTC advisory until tomorrow afternoon when it's within 48 hrs of Nicaragua. Doesn't really make any difference if/when the NHC issues advisories, does it? It's heading into Nicaragua Sunday, no doubt about that at all. Could cross over into the East Pac and redevelop there. Still zero threat to the Gulf. Let's hope this ends the season and you can all start talking about freezing cold winter weather and I can say "no cold for you!". ;-)


At the least, it's surprisingly close to tropical cyclogenesis. Thought it would take until close to Central America given its proximity to land
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#299 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:13 am

ASCAT from 11 hours ago showed westerlies quite clearly. Convection has been non-stop since.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#300 Postby Landy » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:01 am

FNMOC now has this as 13L, as does RAMMB. It remains to be seen whether best track has it listed as a TD or PTC.
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