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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#101 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:49 am

zzzh wrote:https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=13008
Buoy 13008 recorded 990.2mb at 09z (this buoy records data every 1h). 09z NHC advisory had 998mb :?:


Maybe they did not looked at the bouy data?
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#102 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:28 am

Up to 60kt. The bouy data there.

12L KIRK 241001 1200 15.0N 38.7W ATL 60 988
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#103 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:57 am

Papín is happy to get the bouy data.

We have received some fortuitous surface data from
a moored PIRATA buoy (13008) that Kirk passed close by this morning
at around 09 UTC. The buoy reported sustained tropical-storm-force
winds at 4 meters, and a concurrent minimum pressure down to 990
mb. Thus the initial intensity has been raised to 60 kt with an
estimated minimum pressure a little lower at 988 mb.
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#104 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:10 am

Hurricane later this afternoon or evening? I say at 5 PM advisory.

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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#105 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:31 am

cycloneye wrote:Hurricane later this afternoon or evening? I say at 5 PM advisory.

https://i.imgur.com/FJGoDCZ.gif

Not looking great at the moment. Convection seems to just be siting on top of a partially exposed LLC, rather than deep convection rotating around the center and forming an eyewall. Until that happens, it’ll be stuck around 60-70 kt.
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#106 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:39 am

aspen wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Hurricane later this afternoon or evening? I say at 5 PM advisory.

https://i.imgur.com/FJGoDCZ.gif

Not looking great at the moment. Convection seems to just be siting on top of a partially exposed LLC, rather than deep convection rotating around the center and forming an eyewall. Until that happens, it’ll be stuck around 60-70 kt.

Was thinking the same thing. This will likely change quickly at some point, but until then, it looks pretty rough for a storm on the verge hurricane status
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#107 Postby WaveBreaking » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:54 pm

Trying to fight back against the shear

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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#108 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:15 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
aspen wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Hurricane later this afternoon or evening? I say at 5 PM advisory.

https://i.imgur.com/FJGoDCZ.gif

Not looking great at the moment. Convection seems to just be siting on top of a partially exposed LLC, rather than deep convection rotating around the center and forming an eyewall. Until that happens, it’ll be stuck around 60-70 kt.

Was thinking the same thing. This will likely change quickly at some point, but until then, it looks pretty rough for a storm on the verge hurricane status

If the hurricane models are correct, we should see that change starting within the next 12-24 hours. The recent bursts of convection near the center (rather than that ragged, cool convection simply sitting on top of the LLC) seem to support this timeframe.

Probably looking at a Cat 1 for most of the day tomorrow, which RI into a major taking place on Thursday into Friday, followed by shear taking its toll again on Saturday.
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#109 Postby WaveBreaking » Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:49 pm

AL, 12, 2024100118, , BEST, 0, 159N, 397W, 65, 986, HU, 64, NEQ, 25, 0, 0, 0, 1009
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#110 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:50 pm

Breaking News: Kirk upgraded to hurricane

AL, 12, 2024100118, , BEST, 0, 159N, 397W, 65, 986, HU

https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/btk/bal122024.dat
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion: 18z Best Track upgrades to hurricane

#111 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:15 pm

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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#112 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:09 pm

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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#113 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:32 pm

Whatever struggles it was having before, it seems to be quickly getting past them now. Deep CDO forming now
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#114 Postby WaveBreaking » Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:39 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Whatever struggles it was having before, it seems to be quickly getting past them now. Deep CDO forming now


That might be a CCC pattern imo. The latest microwave image of Kirk showed a band displaced over the center, and the overshooting tops aren’t really rotating around a center either. I could be wrong tho.


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Re: ATL: KIRK - Hurricane - Discussion

#115 Postby Zonacane » Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:01 pm

So y’all are posting on S2K and are gonna pretend not to know what a pulse down phase is?
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Hurricane - Discussion

#116 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:02 pm

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Re: ATL: KIRK - Hurricane - Discussion

#117 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:07 pm


Maybe 2024 is not a bust after all. The season peak was just delayed by ONE MONTH. Let's see if we can reach the aux. name list in late Nov./Early Dec. 8-) :lol:
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Hurricane - Discussion

#118 Postby zzzh » Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:16 pm

Anyone has that GPM microwave image at 37 GHz? NRL is not working
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Re: ATL: KIRK - Hurricane - Discussion

#119 Postby zzzh » Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:21 pm

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Re: ATL: KIRK - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#120 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:53 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:Whatever struggles it was having before, it seems to be quickly getting past them now. Deep CDO forming now


That might be a CCC pattern imo. The latest microwave image of Kirk showed a band displaced over the center, and the overshooting tops aren’t really rotating around a center either. I could be wrong tho.

https://i.imgur.com/Gm9MFsd.png


I had this initial thought as well when it first popped up, but visible loops prior to sunset did show a few overshooting tops moving from east to west, presumably in the northern eyewall. Your mw image, as well as others below it, seem to corroborate the formation of an eyewall, which doesn’t typically happen so quickly or at all in a shear-disrupted ccc pattern. So I think this is just a big persistent convective burst.
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