Which countrie is more Dangerous to U.S,Iran or North Korea?

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Which countrie is more dangerous to U.S,Iran or North Korea?

Iran
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North Korea
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Both are dangerous
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None of them are dangerous
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#21 Postby CentralFlGal » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:49 am

Both are equally dangerous for different reasons. Iran's leader is hell-bent on wiping perceived enemies off the face of the planet, and N Korea is only held in check by its fear of China.

N Korea is not allied with China. Politics in that region is seldomly understood by westerners. N Korea is more like a suicidal child backed into a corner trying to escape a bad family situation who just happens to create more enemies along the way.

Both situations hold ramifications for the rest of the world as the damage they can potentially cause will have a ripple effect. Fall-out isn't nice any time of the year.
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#22 Postby CentralFlGal » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:35 am

gtalum wrote: Iran is nothing but a diversion. As for their ability to tighten oil supplies, remember that a large majority of our oil comes from the Western Hemisphere.


Oil :roll:

Iran's a diversion? I simply do not consider nuclear capabilities mere diversions.

Let us for a moment move out of the realm of Hollywood-esque media and consider the current capabilities of Russia and China in the form of nuclear power and intercontinental ballistic missile systems delivery:

Russia Confirms Arms Sales, Nuclear Assistance for Iran http://www.acronym.org.uk/dd/dd55/55iran.htm

Iran, Russia Sign 'Zohreh' Satellite Dealhttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/iran-05d.html

Iran: Russian Proposal Has 'Ambiguities'
Dec. 29, 2005, 11:33AM

Javad Vaidi, a top Iranian nuclear negotiator, said Wednesday that Russia's proposal was to "set up a joint Iranian-Russian company to enrich uranium in Russian territory." He suggested, however, that Tehran would not scrap its uranium enrichment program at home, saying the Russian proposal would not remove Iran's rights under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to carry out enrichment.

"Whatever meaning the Russian proposal may have, it won't mean ... denying Iran its treaty rights," he said.

The nuclear program is a source of national pride in Iran, and any government that abandons enrichment likely would lose public support.

Meanwhile, Washington is pushing for Tehran to be brought before the United Nations Security Council, where it could face economic sanctions over the dispute.

Russia and China, which have vetoes on the council, oppose referral and the West has stopped short of forcing the matter.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/3554243.html

"Diversions" like this have ramifications set years into the future - action to prevent catastrophes is required now. Otherwise, hell, let our grandkids deal with it.

Dealing with two behemoths such as Russia and China delicately in regards to Iran and N Korea proves to be tricky - the full extent of which will never be revealed due to its inherent nature and the inability of laypersons to set biases aside (not a personal attack to the post in which I am responding, but an observation of how many US citizens and others worldwide give knee-jerk reactions to information that is not completely reported).

Russia and China know which buttons to push to gain support in the world against the US and Europe. Their fingers are on the pulse of what they know can trigger "diversions" to make anyone who responds look like the instigators. BTW, China's military is not a defensive force; they are poised for offense. Wait until after the Olympics to see what happens with Taiwan - yet another trigger point.
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#23 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:17 am

Bumping for more votes and comments (No Politics) about this.
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#24 Postby Terrell » Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:57 pm

feederband wrote:I say NK leaders last name :wink: says it all...


Kim?
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#25 Postby mike815 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:58 pm

yes they are both dangerous North Korea is a big issue i think but these are the real countries to go after unlike the ones where in now
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#26 Postby Terrell » Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:06 pm

mike815 wrote:yes they are both dangerous North Korea is a big issue i think but these are the real countries to go after unlike the ones where in now


They both are definitely dangerous, no question about that. I'd say that Kim's superior weapons (and China's likely assistance) are balanced by Iran's fanaticism. While both are dangerous, I think Iran is more likely to start a fight, but Kim would be a bigger problem especially if China were to intervene like they did in the Korean War.
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#27 Postby Tstormwatcher » Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:10 pm

north Korea as they have been for the past 5 or so years. It has been more dangerous than Iran or Iraq have ever been.
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#28 Postby tornadochaser1986 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:37 am

Both of them are dangerous but id say N korea is currently more dangerous because we already know N Korea has Nukes several so far but iran right now were speculating there tryin g to aquire them :(
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