UM...Is any of this true about BUSH??? I Sincerely Hope not

sunnyday · #21 Postby **sunnyday** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:01 pm

If the more the negative propaganda about a President, the better the job he is doing, then Clinton had to be a great President. There was plenty said about him.

Lindaloo · #22 Postby **Lindaloo** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:27 pm

GulfBreezer wrote:I , for one, think that the more negative propaganda about a President only means that he is doing his job. It seems that when a President is on the ball, there are groups out there who feel the need to try to discredit him in any way. Some of the things listed may very well be true but what they neglect to add is the mitigating circumstances that were preceded by the outcome.

I agree 100% Sandi!! Well said. But, in the case with Clinton, he heaped all this upon his shoulders all by himself.

stormchazer · #23 Postby **stormchazer** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:02 pm

Its hate mail. There is a group of people who hate Bush. He is doing a fine job in difficult times. Is he perfect? I guess not but I have great confidence in him. Bush 2004!

Lindaloo · #24 Postby **Lindaloo** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:24 pm

stormchazer wrote:Its hate mail. There is a group of people who hate Bush. He is doing a fine job in difficult times. Is he perfect? I guess not but I have great confidence in him. Bush 2004!

Rainband · #25 Postby **Rainband** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:44 pm

stormchazer wrote:Its hate mail. There is a group of people who hate Bush. He is doing a fine job in difficult times. Is he perfect? I guess not but I have great confidence in him. Bush 2004!

I agree for the most part but some things don't make sense..I am by no means saying Bush is a bad president as he has had some hard situations to deal with..but he is by NO MEANS the perfect President and I am sure he has as many skeletons in his closet as any other. Some of the stuff on that list raised an eyebrow or two IMHO... I guess I can look at things a little differently because I have no allegience to either party. I just look at the facts and then apply comman sense..as I said some things don't make sense. :wink:

#26 Postby **wx247** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:52 pm

Rainband wrote:
stormchazer wrote:Its hate mail. There is a group of people who hate Bush. He is doing a fine job in difficult times. Is he perfect? I guess not but I have great confidence in him. Bush 2004!
I agree for the most part but some things don't make sense..I am by no means saying Bush is a bad president as he has had some hard situations to deal with..but he is by NO MEANS the perfect President and I am sure he has as many skeletons in his closet as any other. Some of the stuff on that list raised an eyebrow or two IMHO... I guess I can look at things a little differently because I have no allegience to either party. I just look at the facts and then apply comman sense..as I said some things don't make sense.

Agreed. AMEN!

blizzard · #27 Postby **blizzard** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:22 am

I agree that there is some truths and then there are some semi-truths in this post. Some could not be helped no matter who had been in office. Some on the other hand I believe are true no matter how much you want to deny them.

Streetsoldier wrote:I, too, sleep MUCH better at night with a REAL Commander-in-Chief in the Oval Office...and I will again express that confidence in November of 2004, thank you very much.

I have a hard time respecting a "Commander in Chief" who has never really served in the military. Thank God for his Secretary of Defense to guide him or we'd all be in a world of hurt. (That goes for any commander in Chief) So therefor, Bush as our Commander in Chief does not make me sleep any better. And as for being a "real" CIC, I don't think so. (Title only)

I also believe the one aboput Clinton

j · #28 Postby j » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:16 pm

Stephanie wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:Surprise, Surprise...

Here is some for Clinton.
RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

My point... there are plenty of these about every President on the net.

That's true Lindaloo - both good and bad!

Tell me what it is that was good about Clinton. Now don't tell me about the economy...tell me about the man...Bill Clinton...and exactly what was good about him?

Lindaloo · #29 Postby **Lindaloo** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:38 pm

lol j. He may have taken credit for the economy, but he let everything else go to hades. The man was not a role model. He made a mockery of the White House and a laughing stock of it as well, right along with his wife.

What did me in with him is he lied to a Grand Jury. We, the People, would have been locked up and and the key thrown away.

Intimidator · #30 Postby **Intimidator** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:41 pm

j wrote:
Stephanie wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:Surprise, Surprise...

Here is some for Clinton.
RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

My point... there are plenty of these about every President on the net.

That's true Lindaloo - both good and bad!

Tell me what it is that was good about Clinton. Now don't tell me about the economy...tell me about the man...Bill Clinton...and exactly what was good about him?

Not much good about Bush either is there?

Must have been something good about Clinton, or did you forget he was elected to a second term. Hmmmm Think about it, lets just see if Bushwhacker gets elected again, and don't say that if he doesn't its because of the war in Iraq.

Lindaloo · #31 Postby **Lindaloo** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:46 pm

What was so great about Clinton?

At least Bush did not take any bull from all those mass murderers. The SAME ones that Clinton allowed to keep on killing and maiming our people. Like the WTC bombing in 93 and the USS Cole. He had a chance to extradite Bin Laden from Sudan and turned the other cheek.

GalvestonDuck · #32 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:01 pm

There was nothing "great" about Clinton. But I will give him some credit: Brady Bill (didn't ban guns or step on anyone's Constitutional right, but it did bring about some regulation in sales), assault weapons ban, crime bill (three strikes, you're out), the Family Medical Leave Act, and the Earned Income Tax Credit.

In 8 years, he did accomplish a few things.

#33 Postby **streetsoldier** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:35 pm

Something that no one has yet divulged...Clinton didn't win the elections in '92 and '96 by a majority, but a plurality (47% both times)...Perot served as a "spoiler", taking enough GOP votes to insure a Democratic victory.

blizzard · #34 Postby **blizzard** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:43 pm

True, so True Street Soldier, but Bush didn't win by popular vote either.

I have a feeling that as long as there are more than two candidates, there will never be a real majority of the votes for one particular candidate.

stormy · #35 Postby **stormy** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:08 pm

i dont believe these things about bush, but i do about clinton. my mother is good friends with a lady who knows jennifer flowers , some of the things i have heard about clinton whould make u just sick. he has no morals. plus our economy was going down hill before bush took over. just my opinion, for what its worth.

blizzard · #36 Postby **blizzard** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:14 pm

All opinions here on this board are worth alot. Without opinions, this would be pretty boring. I don't think that everyone here will ever agree on anything political. But that's alright. I follow the same path as Rainband, neither liberal or conservative, republican or democrat. I vote the issues, not party. I think for myself, not adhering to the thinking that should follow party lines.

I enjoy reading all different views. Some post may get me thinking that I may be off in my thinking. Great board here that gets the brain working again.

Rainband · #37 Postby **Rainband** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:30 pm

Lindaloo wrote:lol j. He may have taken credit for the economy, but he let everything else go to hades. The man was not a role model. He made a mockery of the White House and a laughing stock of it as well, right along with his wife.

What did me in with him is he lied to a Grand Jury. We, the People, would have been locked up and and the key thrown away.

Lindaloo with all due respect BUSH isn't much of a role model :-? ..no politician is for that matter :roll:

As for the Monica..thing that was between him and his wife..tell me he lied?? Then find me a president that hasn't :wink:

Rainband · #38 Postby **Rainband** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:32 pm

blizzard wrote:True, so True Street Soldier, but Bush didn't win by popular vote either.

I have a feeling that as long as there are more than two candidates, there will never be a real majority of the votes for one particular candidate.

Yea he won by Popular brother :wink:

Rainband · #39 Postby **Rainband** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:33 pm

blizzard wrote:All opinions here on this board are worth alot. Without opinions, this would be pretty boring. I don't think that everyone here will ever agree on anything political. But that's alright. I follow the same path as Rainband, neither liberal or conservative, republican or democrat. I vote the issues, not party. I think for myself, not adhering to the thinking that should follow party lines.

I enjoy reading all different views. Some post may get me thinking that I may be off in my thinking. Great board here that gets the brain working again.

I agree Blizzard. I hope my "friends" on here don't hate me because I don't buy some of the crap the government is trying to feed me. :wink:

sunnyday · #40 Postby **sunnyday** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:43 pm

Clinton did catch someone for the bombing. Ramsey Yusef is in jail accused of this crime.

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