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#21 Postby cycloneye » Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:55 pm

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cycloneye wrote:Hey folks this will be a loooong trial that will be there for months as many witnesses for both sides will testify so dont expect a quick veredict.Although the judge wants to speed things up.


I think I'm gonna hate the fact that this will be such a public trial. I mean, it was bad enough when we had to hear some of the testimony (whether true or not) about Clarence Thomas. But at least, they were all adults in the case. This is going to be difficult for the press to report and difficult for us to hear. Has there ever been such a public child molestation case before? Maybe I'm too young to remember or maybe the information superhighway was still just a cowpath at the time, but I think the last time I remember a molestation trial being so heavily reported on the news was the Lisa Steinberg case...and I thankfully don't recall there being many publicized details about that one.


Yes the Media will have a festival in their hands every day.
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#22 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:50 pm

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050302/D88IS6SO3.html

Jackson may testifie himself at trial.Read information at link.Do you think that his testimony helps him or not?
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#23 Postby GalvestonDuck » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:53 pm

He'd be nuts (well, okay...he is already) if he testifies. The prosecutor will make him out to be the freak he is and that could help get a conviction.
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#24 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:06 pm


SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- A public relations expert hired by a lawyer for Michael Jackson to control damage -- after a 2003 TV documentary -- testified Wednesday that she was fired after she questioned the way the family of a boy, who appeared in the movie, was being treated.

In the documentary, Jackson is shown holding hands with the 13-year-old boy who later accused him of child molestation.

Ann Kite, who also goes by the professional name Ann Gabriel, told jurors in Jackson's trial that she was hired by his Las Vegas-based lawyer, David LeGrand, less than a week after the documentary, "Living With Michael Jackson," aired on Britain's ITV on February 3, 2003.

A different version, based on the same material, later aired in the United States on ABC.

Kite described the program as "an absolute disaster" for the pop star and that, on a damage scale from one to 10, she would put it at "a 25."

But during cross-examination, Kite's self-description as a crisis management expert was challenged. And she acknowledged that the singer never participated in the damage control efforts.

In addition to holding hands with the boy, Jackson also defended his practice of allowing children to sleep in his bedroom at Neverland ranch, where the alleged molestation took place.

On February 13, 2003, Kite said she had a telephone conversation with Fredric Marc Schaffel, a Jackson associate, who expressed concern that the accuser's mother, who had been staying at Neverland with the boy and two of her other children, took the children and left the ranch late at night.

Several hours later, Kite said she received another phone call from Schaffel in which he told her that "the situation had been contained" -- a statement she said made her "very uncomfortable." She was later told that the family was back at the ranch.

Kite said LeGrand refused to answer when she asked him how the situation had been contained. She testified that she told him, "Don't make me believe these people were hunted down like dogs and brought back to the ranch."

Kite told jurors that she also had a conversation that day with Jackson associate Ronald Konitzer, in which she told him she was "very concerned" that Jackson was being exposed to even more negative publicity by what was going on with the boy's family.

Two days later, she said, she was pulled off the set of the syndicated television show "Access Hollywood," where she was preparing to make a statement on Jackson's behalf. She said that Mark Geragos, a criminal defense attorney who then represented Jackson, had called the producers and told them she had been fired and no longer spoke for Jackson.

Kite said she was later asked to sign a confidentiality agreement, which she believed was "designed to shut me up," but refused.

She also testified that several days after her termination, she had a phone conversation with LeGrand in which he told her that the family no longer presented a problem for Jackson because his camp had the boy's mother on tape and planned to portray her as "a crack whore."

Kite's testimony is an effort by the prosecution to support its contention that after the documentary backfired on Jackson, he and his associates tried to isolate the boy and his family and intimidate them into participating in a rebuttal video -- a campaign that included holding them captive at Neverland.

One of the 10 counts in the indictment against Jackson alleges that he and five associates, who were not indicted, conspired to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion. Schaffel and Konitzer were among those named as unindicted co-conspirators.

Kite testified that during her efforts to control the damage, she worked closely with Konitzer, Schaffel and Geragos, who was later replaced as Jackson's criminal attorney. But she told jurors that Jackson's associates, particularly Schaffel, disagreed with her about what to do. She said their ideas included trying to enlist help from Jackson's ex-wife, Debbie Rowe, who is the mother of two of his children.

Kite said she advised against using Rowe because "I didn't think she was the strongest candidate." But she said Schaffel told her Rowe would say whatever Jackson asked her to say.

Kite said her crisis plan involved trying to get the media focus back on Jackson's music, rather than his actions, and she recommended that he make a "strong on-camera rebuttal" to the documentary.

Under cross-examination, Kite conceded that Jackson himself was never part of the damage control efforts. She also said that during the six days she worked for the Jackson camp, her only face-to-face meeting was with LeGrand. She never met Jackson, and all of the contact with his other associates was by phone, she said.

She said that Jackson signed her paychecks, but she never met him and dealt only with his associates.

Kite also revealed during cross-examination that she had a personal relationship with LeGrand that began in the fall of 2002 and ended shortly before he hired her.

In his cross-examination, defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. challenged Kite's description of herself as a crisis management expert, getting her to admit that the only other celebrity client she had was an obscure Las Vegas entertainer whose act included self-hypnosis.

"You really weren't very experienced in the area of celebrity crisis management," Mesereau said, asking Kite why she described herself that way.

"I've seen a lot," she replied.

Mesereau also suggested that Kite had a conflict of interest because in late 1990s, she was involved in an effort to put music on the Internet -- a move opposed by Jackson and his record company, Sony. But Kite said she did not believe it was a conflict because LeGrand, who had hired her, was involved in the same effort.

Jackson, 46, arrived at the courthouse in Santa Maria Wednesday morning with his mother, Katherine, and one of his brothers. He was wearing a black jacket over a white vest with black dots and a gold striped arm band.

He was indicted in April by a state grand jury on 10 felony counts for incidents that allegedly occurred in February and March 2003: four counts of committing a lewd act on a child; one count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion; one count of attempting to commit a lewd act on a child; and four counts of administering an intoxicating agent to assist in the commission of a felony.

He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

The trial was delayed for about 30 minutes Wednesday morning while attorneys in the case held a discussion behind closed doors. Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville later explained to jurors that the delay was to deal with a "legal problem" that had arisen Tuesday.

The judge also read jurors the law governing how they should evaluate statements from alleged co-conspirators in the case.


An interesting testimony today from this public relations expert.
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#25 Postby Pburgh » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:05 pm

Well, I don't think he is guilty of this. Again, I'll have to say that he is a real weirdo but not guilty of this charge.

I think the mother of this child should be prosecuted.
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#26 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:53 am


SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Late night talk show host Jay Leno, subpoenaed to appear as a defense witness in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial, has asked that a judge clarify the gag order in the case so he can continue to mention the trial in his nightly monologue.

According to court papers released Wednesday by the Santa Barbara County Superior Court, "The Tonight Show" host was subpoenaed February 17 to appear as a witness in the trial and filed a motion for clarification on the gag order February 18.

In the motion, attorneys for Leno asked that the gag order not be applied to the comic. But if it must be, they asked that it be amended to only prevent him from speaking about firsthand information he has in the case.

"When the court issued this gag order more than a year ago, it could not possibly have been seeking to affect the ability of entertainment personalities like Mr. Leno to comment about public information in this case," the motion said.

The gag order bars anyone connected from the case from publicly discussing testimony or evidence.

In opening statements Monday, Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. told jurors that the accuser in the case had called Leno a few years ago in a pitch for money to help pay for his cancer treatments.

Mesereau said Leno became suspicious about the call, in which the boy's mother could be heard coaching her son, and contacted Santa Barbara police.

Wednesday night, Leno devoted seven minutes of his monologue to the Jackson trial, poking fun at the celebrity witness list.

He joked that attorneys would question possible witnesses like Larry King, Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross in a "Hollywood Squares" game show format, with Leno in the coveted center square.


Jay Leno will testifie as a defense witness.
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#27 Postby Pburgh » Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:16 pm

Heaven forbid that a "Hollywood Star" should have to abide by the same rules as the "average" citizen.
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#28 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:17 pm



SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Prosecutors in the Michael Jackson trial took jurors on a video tour on Thursday of the pop star's Neverland Ranch, including the two-story master bedroom suite where Jackson is accused of molesting a 13-year-old boy two years ago.

The panel also heard from the accuser's 18-year-old sister, who described what she saw and experienced inside Jackson's private world.

Among the items that could be seen in the video: A life-sized male doll dressed in a Boy Scout uniform, complete with merit badges; and an ornate red-and-gold throne-like chair in a hallway on which a male doll was perched with his hands on his hips.

A framed print of the Last Supper hung over his bed. Two framed pictures of Elizabeth Taylor, one in her early years and another in her later years, decorated the bathroom.

Jackson, who came to court Thursday with his mother, Katherine, and his brother, Jackie, appeared pensive as the video played, putting two fingers up to his face and watching intently.

The footage was taken by Albert Lafferty, a videographer for the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department, to show how the property looked before investigators executed a search warrant on November 18, 2003.

The video showed that the house was cluttered, with shoe boxes, books and a variety of objects stacked on the floors. Though the house has a country flavor on the outside, the decor in the entrance hall was highly ornate, with marble and Roman statutes.

The master bedroom, which had a keypad to control entry, was at the end of a hallway. Inside, several large cardboard cutouts were visible, including one of child star Shirley Temple and another showing two toddlers kissing. There was also a crib in the room.

A photo illustration showing Jackson with a cherub was on top of a piano in an adjacent sitting area, where a number a rag dolls were also perched. There was also a small red wagon in the room.

Jurors were also shown a room that prosecutors referred to as the "doll room," which featured hundreds of dolls -- a number of them life-size -- along with a doll house, a doll bed and an elaborate crib.

Another room, dubbed the "toy room" by prosecutors, was filled with life-size toys based on movie characters, including Batman and C-3PO and Darth Vader from "Star Wars." Life-size heads of Pinocchio and his puppet-master, Giupetto, sat on top of a cabinet.


The Jurors saw a video of the ranch and the rooms.
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#29 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:23 pm



SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- The sister of the teenager accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation told jurors Thursday that she saw Jackson take her brother into a bedroom at a Miami resort and shut the door, leaving the two of them alone together.

"He pulled him aside into his room," the sister, now 18, said, saying her brother and Jackson were alone together for 15 to 30 minutes. She said the same scenario happened "two or three times" over the course of a day when she and members of her family were together in Jackson's suite two years ago.

Asked how her brother was acting that day, she told jurors, "He was just very hyper, very talkative, running around, playful," adding that he was also "more jumpy and stuff."

Prosecutors say the February 2003 trip to Miami was designed to keep the family from seeing a controversial television documentary in which Jackson and his accuser, then 13, were shown holding hands and the pop star defended his practice of allowing children to sleep in his bed.

The prosecution has also accused Jackson of giving the teen alcohol, putting what he called "Jesus juice" into empty soft drink cans.

The sister later testified that she saw her brother drinking alcohol in the arcade at Neverland and that Jackson was present at the time. Before she could provide any details, the defense objected.

The sister said she, her mother and her two brothers were flown to Miami on a private jet, along with comedian Chris Tucker, where they stayed in a room one floor below Jackson's. She described the trip as last-minute.

She spoke softly and referred to the singer as "Mr. Jackson," and said the family spent the entire next day in Jackson's suite.

That night, the American version of the documentary "Living With Michael Jackson," which had run earlier on British TV, aired on ABC. The sister said Jackson "was kind of like upset, didn't want to see it," and urged the family not to watch it, either.

The sister testified that on the way back from Miami on the private jet, she saw Jackson and her brother both drinking from a Diet Coke can. She also said she saw Jackson give her brother a watch and the jacket he was wearing.

She also testified that during the family's first visit to Jackson's Neverland Ranch in 2000, she was present during a conversation in which the accuser brought up the subject of being allowed to sleep in Jackson's bed. Her father and Jackson were also present, she said.

Amid defense objections, she didn't testify as to where her brothers slept. But she did say that while she and her parents slept in adjoining rooms in a guest house, her brothers stayed elsewhere.

She said the involvement between Jackson and her family began in the summer of 1999, when she and her brothers attended a comedy camp sponsored by the Laugh Factory, a comedy club owned by Jamie Masada.

At the time, the accuser was extremely ill with cancer and was not expected to live. His cancer has since gone into remission.

The teen told Masada that he wanted to meet three celebrities -- Adam Sandler, Tucker and Jackson. The girl said he got to meet Jackson and Tucker, who later became a "friend" of the family.

The sister, her parents and her brothers were later invited to Neverland and driven from their apartment in East Los Angeles to the ranch in a limousine, she said.

She also told jurors that she and her mother, as well as her brothers, were abused by their father. Asked how many times she had seen her father hit her mother, she answered, "Too many to count. So many." Asked how many times she and her brothers had been hit, she said, "Lots."

The sister also said she witnessed a fight between her parents at Neverland during which her father threw a can of soda at her mother. They later divorced.

The claims of abuse are expected to be a source of contention between the prosecution and defense.


A long testimony by the sister of the accuser.This is damage testimony for Jackson but the defense will counterpart with many people who will favor Jackson.
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#30 Postby cycloneye » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:28 pm


SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Jurors in the Michael Jackson trial saw video footage Friday in which the boy accusing him of child molestation and the boy's family laud the pop star and deny that anything untoward happened between them.

In the tape -- prepared by Jackson's camp two years ago to rebut a controversial television documentary by British journalist Martin Bashir -- the boy's mother described Jackson as "an answered prayer to my children and me," and gave Jackson credit for helping her son beat cancer.

"God elected to work through Michael," she said. "When we saw no hope, Michael would say, 'There is hope.' "

Jackson's accuser described him as "loving, kind, humble" and said he looked up to him like a father.

"I took to him really quick," said the boy.

The mother said that people alleging that Jackson's relationship with the boy was sexual were "missing out on something very beautiful that they have tainted."

The prosecution has alleged that the family was coerced and intimidated into making the rebuttal tape, and on the stand Thursday, the boy's sister, who appears on the tape, said they were told what to say.

The footage shown in court was unedited and showed the taping had started and stopped several times because of confusion about what family members would say.

The four family members on the tape -- the accuser, his mother, his sister and his younger brother -- appeared relaxed and sat arranged on a lighted set.

No script was visible, but different family members repeated similar phrases.

As the tape played, Jackson's mother, Katherine, who has attended court with her son during every day, wept.

Jackson, 46, was indicted in April by a state grand jury on 10 felony counts for incidents that allegedly occurred in February and March 2003: four counts of committing a lewd act on a child; one count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion; one count of attempting to commit a lewd act on a child; and four counts of administering an intoxicating agent to assist in the commission of a felony.

He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Jackson arrived at the courthouse Friday with his mother, brother Jermaine and sister LaToya. He wore a black jacket, white shirt and oversized red tie.

After the prosecution introduced the rebuttal tape, the sister of Jackson's accuser, now 18, resumed her testimony.

Thursday she testified that she saw Jackson give what appeared to be alcohol to the accuser and his younger brother at the singer's Neverland Ranch.

She also said she saw Jackson take his accuser, then 13, into a hotel bedroom at least twice, where they were alone behind closed doors, and that her brother seemed to withdraw from the close-knit family around the same time


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Today the jurors saw a video of the accuser the boy with Jackson.
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#31 Postby cycloneye » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:42 pm


SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) - A family now accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation was seen by jurors Friday in a video praising him as a father figure, and the sister of the accuser testified under cross-examination that she had accused her own father of molesting her, imprisoning her and making terrorist threats.

"God worked through Michael to help us," the mother of the accuser said in the video played for the jury. "When we saw no hope Michael said there was hope. ... We were broken and Michael fixed us."

The video was played during testimony by the accuser's 18-year-old sister, who underwent questioning by District Attorney Tom Sneddon and cross-examination by Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.

During cross-examination intended to show the family has a history of making allegations, the witness acknowledged the accusations against her father, who is divorced from her mother.


Mesereau asked the young woman if she had once told police she was being abused by her father five times a week, and she answered, "We were abused every day."


This testimony will be helpful to Jackson as the Jurors will see him as a lovely person.

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#32 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:00 pm

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At link below you will see what transpired today with the testimony of brother of accuser which helped in many parts the defense.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/07/jacks ... index.html
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#33 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:07 pm

cycloneye wrote:Image

At link below you will see what transpired today with the testimony of brother of accuser which helped bigtime the defense.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/07/jacks ... index.html


Some of it may have helped the defense, but this part sure didn't:
At another point, Jackson whispered into the ear of his son, Prince Michael, who was asleep, about what he was missing, spelling out a euphemism for female genitalia, the brother testified.


:eek:
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#34 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:14 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Image

At link below you will see what transpired today with the testimony of brother of accuser which helped bigtime the defense.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/07/jacks ... index.html


Some of it may have helped the defense, but this part sure didn't:
At another point, Jackson whispered into the ear of his son, Prince Michael, who was asleep, about what he was missing, spelling out a euphemism for female genitalia, the brother testified.


:eek:


After viewing one image of a topless woman, the brother told jurors that Jackson turned to them and said, "Got milk."

GD also the above statement by the brother of accuser didn't helped the defense too much.
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#35 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:58 pm

Gee Michael...diggin' himself DEEPER & DEEPER into a hole!! :eek: :eek:

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#36 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:45 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/08/cnn.j ... index.html

Today the brother of the accuser was portraided as a lyer by the cross examination by the defense.

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#37 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:57 pm

http://cnn.law.printthis.clickability.c ... nerID=2013

The Accuser takes the stand this afternoon.Read all about it at link.
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#38 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:47 am

Today will be a very important day in the trial as the accuser takes the stand for a second day this time a full day of cross examination by the defense.By the afternoon we will know what transpired.
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#39 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:13 pm

SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson was late for his trial Thursday, and the California judge trying the pop superstar's child molestation said he would issue a bench warrant for Jackson's arrest if he did not appear in court within an hour.

He is almost due to arrive at the courthouse.Is this a drama or what???????????????
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#40 Postby TexasStooge » Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:17 pm

cycloneye wrote:SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson was late for his trial Thursday, and the California judge trying the pop superstar's child molestation said he would issue a bench warrant for Jackson's arrest if he did not appear in court within an hour.

He is almost due to arrive at the courthouse.Is this a drama or what???????????????


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