SC mother has son arrested... for opening Xmas gifts

[Opal storm]

Forget about the crooks and rapists roaming on our streets,lets arrest a 12 year old kid for "breaking" into his grandmother's house and opening Christmas presents.

His mom didn't want to deal with him so she just had him thrown in jail.I can't believe some parents these days are so pitiful.Jail doesn't teach a kid any good,it just exposes him to a environment that a 12 year old should never have to experience.

[Tstormwatcher]

I agree Regit. This whole thing is nothing but a bunch of stupidity to all involved, except for the child.

Well said about the Dept. of Human Services. The ones they should go after, they turn a blind eye to. There is so many children suffering from poverty and most will not even have Christmas presents because of their parents being on drugs.

Kids, they are JUST kids.

How many 12 year olds have you seen murder others in the past few years. Kids are not just kids anymore. Many of todays parents are either afraid to discipline their children because they may get child protective services called on them or they just want to be their childs best friends instead of true parents. I think this is why we see so many screwed up and out of control kids these days. The mother obviously could not control her child, she had tried to help him but nothing worked so she did what she thought she had to do. I appluad her and the police.

[george_r_1961]

Its obvious that this young man needs some help and perhaps the only way hes gonna get it is thru the court system. Hopefully the judge will take into account his ADHD history and place him in a treatment program instead of in a correctional facility. Its pretty obvious his mother cant handle him. Hopefully, with a little help, he can get his life straight.

You think it's appropiate to arrest a child with ADD by using handcuffs?

Yes it is appropriate. It is standard police procedure to handcuff all arrestees behind their back although sometimes..in the case of an elderly or infirm person they will be cuffed up front or even not at all. Handcuffs dont hurt when properly applied and double locked and they help prevent the prisoner from injuring himself or others.

The article also mentioned that he tried to hit a police officer. THAT is pretty serious. If he doesnt get some intervention soon hes gonna be spending a lot of his adult life in prison.

[whereverwx]

Yeah, it may be somewhat over the top, but does that give us a right to judge her parenting skills? No, it doesn’t; or at least in my opinion. Sometimes strict consequences are good, and I’m sure this will most certainly be a turning point for the child. In the future, I can only ponder what/where this child may be if she hadn’t have done this.

And before anyone mentions the ADHD/ADD, I am already aware of it.

In the article it states that:

‘"He's been going through life doing things... and getting away with it," she said.’ And that ‘. . . [he] is already facing an expulsion hearing at his school for attempting to hit a police officer assigned to the school last month.’ Also, ‘Ms Ervin . . . hoped the authorities could scare her son into behaving himself.’

[Derek Ortt]

I don't know all of the facts, so I don't know if he broke into her place or not. Until I hear all facts, I cannot say for sure that he should have been arrested

I would not show leniency due to ADHD. That never was an issue in the past. That has only came up in recent years in the PC era. IMO, ADHD means not being spanked enough

[george_r_1961]

I don't know all of the facts, so I don't know if he broke into her place or not. Until I hear all facts, I cannot say for sure that he should have been arrested

I would not show leniency due to ADHD. That never was an issue in the past. That has only came up in recent years in the PC era. IMO, ADHD means not being spanked enough

ADHD, like a lot of mental illnesses, is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. Thats why some kids with ADHD are on meds. Some form of treatment must be incorporated into whatever sentence he gets. I agree that he should be held accountable but lets try to help him as well. As far ADHD meaning not getting spanked enough, well that has got to be the most incredible statement ive ever heard you make.

[Opal storm]

My little brother has a serious case of ADHD,I have to say I'm offended by that comment Derek.

[Regit]

My little brother has a serious case of ADHD,I have to say I'm offended by that comment Derek.

As many others should be.

While ADHD is overdiagnosed, it is NOT caused by parenting. In fact, the only 2 kids I know personally who have ADHD are spanked for every wrong move they make. ADHD is caused when parts of the brain that regulate behavior, such as the frontal lobe, do not do their jobs quite right.

However, I think the comment was just another attempt to bring up the spanking debate.

[Brent]

I don't know all of the facts, so I don't know if he broke into her place or not. Until I hear all facts, I cannot say for sure that he should have been arrested

I would not show leniency due to ADHD. That never was an issue in the past. That has only came up in recent years in the PC era. IMO, ADHD means not being spanked enough

That is quite possibly the most absurd thing I have ever read on this board.

[HurricaneBill]

IMO, ADHD means not being spanked enough

Shame on you, Derek. Did it ever occur to you that some of the posters on Storm2k might have kids with ADHD or might have ADHD themselves?

[Rainband]

I don't know all of the facts, so I don't know if he broke into her place or not. Until I hear all facts, I cannot say for sure that he should have been arrested

I would not show leniency due to ADHD. That never was an issue in the past. That has only came up in recent years in the PC era. IMO, ADHD means not being spanked enough

With all due respect, and that comment really doesn't give you too much due I had ADHD and trust me I was spanked. Sorry Derek but that was just IGNORANT If I didn't know how smart you were... well your comment speaks for itself. Seems like your parents should have spanked you more.

[azsnowman]

lets see

he entered his great grandma's house without permission it seems, and he stole things that did not belong to him?

He is lucky he didn't end up with a felony charge of breaking and entering along with his larceny charge.

Good for the mom and police to have his carcass arrested and teach him that there are consequences for one's actions

AMEN!!! I would have done the SAME thing, I think it's GREAT....trust me, when you spend as much time as I do at the schools, SOMEONE needs to take care of the problems, it's obvious the parents aren't!

[Pburgh]

What a sad case. It's a shame when a parent cannot handle their own child. She definitely is way too young to have a 12 year old. She has never had a childhood herself so how would she know. It's a shame that she could not have been the one to teach him that there are consequences to his actions. Take the stupid game back to the store and don't give him anything. Do that a few times and I think he will get the message. Consistency with the discipline - if something is wrong, it's wrong --- it doesn't matter how busy or how tired a parent is --- they must follow thru and be consistent with their love and with their discipline.

As far as ADHD, I feel that some lazy parents use this as an excuse for undisciplined children. That's one of the sad parts of this disease.

Dennis, it would be great if he'd met a nice policeman like you that could guide him in the right direction.

By the way, I used to unwrap and rewrap almost all of my gifts while my parents were out. I played with baby dolls and games and even got caught using a wonderful hair dryer!!!

[Lindaloo]

I don't know all of the facts, so I don't know if he broke into her place or not. Until I hear all facts, I cannot say for sure that he should have been arrested

I would not show leniency due to ADHD. That never was an issue in the past. That has only came up in recent years in the PC era. IMO, ADHD means not being spanked enough

I have a child that is ADHD. I am offended by your last statement. Second, please read up on ADHD and the problems that kids have dealing with it.

[Lindaloo]

I agree Regit. This whole thing is nothing but a bunch of stupidity to all involved, except for the child.

Well said about the Dept. of Human Services. The ones they should go after, they turn a blind eye to. There is so many children suffering from poverty and most will not even have Christmas presents because of their parents being on drugs.

Kids, they are JUST kids.

How many 12 year olds have you seen murder others in the past few years. Kids are not just kids anymore. Many of todays parents are either afraid to discipline their children because they may get child protective services called on them or they just want to be their childs best friends instead of true parents. I think this is why we see so many screwed up and out of control kids these days. The mother obviously could not control her child, she had tried to help him but nothing worked so she did what she thought she had to do. I appluad her and the police.

Well, I am not one of those parents who are afraid to discipline. You just made my point about the Dept. of Human Services, do you even read what I say?

[cajungal]

I have ADHD. And believe me I was spanked plenty as a child. Beaten with a belt as early as 3 years old with a belt. And I am still scared of my dad to this day and rarely speak to him.

[Lindaloo]

My little brother has a serious case of ADHD,I have to say I'm offended by that comment Derek.

As many others should be.

While ADHD is overdiagnosed, it is NOT caused by parenting. In fact, the only 2 kids I know personally who have ADHD are spanked for every wrong move they make. ADHD is caused when parts of the brain that regulate behavior, such as the frontal lobe, do not do their jobs quite right.

However, I think the comment was just another attempt to bring up the spanking debate.

Well said!