Iran Nuclear Standoff

[brunota2003]

*watches as the crap hits the fan* and now we finish the long downward spiral towards war...

[cycloneye]

*watches as the crap hits the fan*

Brunta what do you mean by that phrase?

[brunota2003]

*watches as the crap hits the fan*

Brunta what do you mean by that phrase?

bad things start happening...like the crap hitting the fan in volcanic terms would be the eruption beginning...or a hurricane starting a bombing run...

[cycloneye]

*watches as the crap hits the fan*

Brunta what do you mean by that phrase?

bad things start happening...like the crap hitting the fan in volcanic terms would be the eruption beginning...or a hurricane starting a bombing run...

Oh ok.I agree that this situation is getting ugly as time goes by and the military option is looking like a real possibbility.However things will be very slow at the UN as Russia and China will block any atempt by the U.S to impose sanctions to Iran.

[Scorpion]

There will be no war until at least another year.

[BEER980]

x-y-no

Much hinges on just how advanced Iran's nuclear weapons programs are.

How far along do you think their program is? I have my idea based on what I have read but I am curious what others think.

And yes it does seem that the bovine excrement is moving closer to the oscillating device. This should continue for the next few weeks.

[cycloneye]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11800939/

Umm spreading democracy in Iran may be more far that what many may think in the U.S goverment.

[cycloneye]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060314/D8GBC3184.html



The supreme leader in Iran calls for no compromise on the nukes issue.

[greeng13]

what i do not understand is the brief article on the previous page:

Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Mar. 13 – Iran will begin construction of a new nuclear plant in the south-western province of Khuzestan within the next six months, the country’s Energy Minister announced.

“The project to build the country’s second nuclear plant will begin in the first six months of the coming year (Persian calendar year beginning March 21) by domestic experts”, Parviz Fattah told reporters, the government-run agency Mehr reported on Sunday.

Fattah said that the ministry had signed contracts with Syria, Lebanon, Armenia, Iraq, Georgia, and Tajikistan over the past year.

How would IRAQ (since the US is helping to "re-build" it) have signed a nuclear contract with them a year ago????? something seems fishy there.....

[cycloneye]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/15/inter ... nted=print

Ummm interesting that maybe there is some division inside Iran about this standoff.

[vbhoutex]

what i do not understand is the brief article on the previous page:

Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Mar. 13 – Iran will begin construction of a new nuclear plant in the south-western province of Khuzestan within the next six months, the country’s Energy Minister announced.

“The project to build the country’s second nuclear plant will begin in the first six months of the coming year (Persian calendar year beginning March 21) by domestic experts”, Parviz Fattah told reporters, the government-run agency Mehr reported on Sunday.

Fattah said that the ministry had signed contracts with Syria, Lebanon, Armenia, Iraq, Georgia, and Tajikistan over the past year.

How would IRAQ (since the US is helping to "re-build" it) have signed a nuclear contract with them a year ago????? something seems fishy there.....

I'd sure like to hear an answer to that one!!!!

[x-y-no]

x-y-no

Much hinges on just how advanced Iran's nuclear weapons programs are.

How far along do you think their program is? I have my idea based on what I have read but I am curious what others think.

And yes it does seem that the bovine excrement is moving closer to the oscillating device. This should continue for the next few weeks.

I think it's a matter of some years (not months) before they can complete a weapon. As I understand it, they are pursuing both the uranium and plutonium types. A uranium bomb is much easier to build, but weapons grade uranium is much harder to make than weapons grade plutonium, so I expect that just like North Korea, Pakistan and India they would complete a plutonium weapon first (it's actually unclear to me whether any of those nations yet has a uranium weapon).

If it's true that they are a few years away, then we still have time to prevent it by nonmilitary means, I think. If the timeframe is shorter, then the choice may be between allowing it to happen or taking what will almost certainly be very costly military action.

[vbhoutex]

x-y-no

Much hinges on just how advanced Iran's nuclear weapons programs are.

How far along do you think their program is? I have my idea based on what I have read but I am curious what others think.

And yes it does seem that the bovine excrement is moving closer to the oscillating device. This should continue for the next few weeks.

I think it's a matter of some years (not months) before they can complete a weapon. As I understand it, they are pursuing both the uranium and plutonium types. A uranium bomb is much easier to build, but weapons grade uranium is much harder to make than weapons grade plutonium, so I expect that just like North Korea, Pakistan and India they would complete a plutonium weapon first (it's actually unclear to me whether any of those nations yet has a uranium weapon).

If it's true that they are a few years away, then we still have time to prevent it by nonmilitary means, I think. If the timeframe is shorter, then the choice may be between allowing it to happen or taking what will almost certainly be very costly military action.

I don't know enough to comment on how far the program is advanced, but I feel like it is very close to fruition, meaning no more than a year or two at most. Any way this develops the bolded statement holds IMO. I don't think we can avoid military action of some sort unless the crazy man and some of his cronies that are running Iran are taken out.

[BEER980]

From what I can tell they seem to be very close or already have one. I don't see many stories about them being years off, most seem to center on real soon. Now this could be part of the media hype to get us into thinking we have to do something right now. We do know they have been shopping on the black market, just how much and what have they bought. They may have nukes right now from one source I read recently. It stated that they have acquired them from NK in a nuke agreement they have. They are sharing nuke and missile technology. Another source says we provided plans for a basic nuke to Iran in 1999 by way of a double agent. Now these plans had a flaw designed into them to throw them off and it could be spotted by someone who knew what they were doing. They are on track right now to be the Super Power of the Middle East like it or not, unless we step in. Sanctions are not going to work here. Sadly there are only two outcomes that our leaders will take. First we could take out the leadership by means of special forces or surgical strikes. The other being an all out bombing campaign with ground forces taking control of the oil fields in the south. The best scenario would be SF/sniper taking out top officials. The worst is the bombing route. Just remember that a war is going to cause damage like you can't imagine. We are on the record threating to use nukes on the complexes and that has its own set of problems.

[alicia-w]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/16/ ... index.html

[cycloneye]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11928969/

Still nothing concrete comming out of the UN as things there are in a very divisive stage.

[cycloneye]

Bush warns Iran on Israel
Mar 20 3:05 PM US/Eastern


US President George W. Bush said he hoped to resolve the nuclear dispute with Iran with diplomacy, but warned Tehran he would "use military might" if necessary to defend Israel.

"The threat from Iran is, of course, their stated objective to destroy our strong ally Israel. That's a threat, a serious threat. It's a threat to world peace," the US president said after a speech defending the war in Iraq.

"I made it clear, and I'll make it clear again, that we will use military might to protect our ally Israel," said Bush, who was apparently referring to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call for the destruction of Israel.


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/2 ... 9dcoq.html


Ummm very strong words from the President talking about this topic of Israel and Iran.

[BEER980]

Someone should give Bush the article from a week or so ago about how Israel says their missile system can stop anything. That would seem to negate the Iranian threat if what they said is true.

[BUD]

The bottom line is "if"Iran does something foolish Israel will attack Iran.Now with what???Nuclear weapons???maybe??maybe not??

[cycloneye]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... -headlines

This is nothing new about Iran helping Al-Qaeda.