Iran Nuclear Standoff

[Rainband]

what will be will be.

[cycloneye]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... er=germany

Oh my they can have the bomb in 16 days.

[brunota2003]

once they get the 54,000 thing up and running...it will be a while before that though...no, we will not have nuclear fallout in 16 days...just that in the near future it could happen...

[gtalum]

Having enough fuel for a bomb and having a bomb are two different claims.

While the article title implies they could have a bomb in 16 days, the actual quote referencing that only makes the claim that they could have the fuel for it in 16 days.

[alicia-w]

however, they cant make one small enough to be deployed by any missiles they have.

While almost no one disputes Iran’s nuclear ambitions, there is intense debate over how soon it could get the bomb, and what to do about that. Robert Gallucci, a former government expert on nonproliferation who is now the dean of the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown, told me, “Based on what I know, Iran could be eight to ten years away” from developing a deliverable nuclear weapon.

Seymour Harsh article in The New Yorker
From: http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/a ... 417fa_fact

[Brent]

Exactly. They aren't even close to having one they can actually use against a country. Nothing is imminent(U.S. attack or Iran striking someone else) and that is very obvious.

[alicia-w]

Exactly. They aren't even close to having one they can actually use against a country. Nothing is imminent(U.S. attack or Iran striking someone else) and that is very obvious.

Dont count on the US not attacking. The Iran situation is about more than the bomb. It's about the balance of power in the middle east, about who will control the region and the oil there.

[gtalum]

That might be true except that we already don't have enough soldiers and equipment to fight the two wars we're already in... Talk of starting another is ridiculous bluster and nothing more.

[Brent]

Exactly. They aren't even close to having one they can actually use against a country. Nothing is imminent(U.S. attack or Iran striking someone else) and that is very obvious.

Dont count on the US not attacking. The Iran situation is about more than the bomb. It's about the balance of power in the middle east, about who will control the region and the oil there.

The U.S. cannot get involved in another conflict if they were forced to. We are bogged down in Iraq big time, a situation that is not going to get better anytime soon, and this is an election year.

[cycloneye]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060413/D8GVB6600.html

The leadership in Iran doesn't back down and sound the defiant tone.

[greeng13]

i wouldn't necessarily say they are a "nuclear power" yet because they enriched some uranium...either way it will beinteresting to see what Russia and China propose as they keep barking but don't bite so to speak...they condemn this activity but offer no consequence for it.

it is like the mother who constantly tells her child "no" but the child doesn't understand what "no" means having never faced consequences...JMHO

[kevin]

Sovereign nations do not think of themselves as children. The powerful are often condemned by the majority of people. They are shielded from consequences because they are powerful.

[greeng13]

Sovereign nations do not think of themselves as children. The powerful are often condemned by the majority of people. They are shielded from consequences because they are powerful.

it was a metaphor and nothing more.............................................

don't need to get this thread locked too.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Iranian president: 'Rotten' Israel will be annihilated by 'one storm'
Haaretz ^ | April 14, 2006



Days after announcing that Iran had successfully enriched uranium, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Friday called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihilated by "one storm."

Opening of at the opening ceremony of the Qods (Jerusalem) conference in Tehran on supporting the Palestinians, Ahmadinejad fired a series of verbal shots at Israel, saying it was a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated, and again questioning the validity of the Nazi Holocaust against Jews in World War II.

"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihiliation," Ahmadinejad said. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm," he said.

"The existence of the Zionist regime is tantamount to an imposition of an unending and unrestrained threat so that none of the nations and Islamic countries of the region and beyond can feel secure from its threat," Ahmadinejad said.

The president provoked a world outcry last October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map." On Friday, he repeated his previous line on the Holocaust, saying: "If such a disaster is true, why should the people of this region pay the price? Why does the Palestinian nation have to be suppressed and have its land occupied?"

"There might be doubts in the Holocaust, but there are definitely no doubts about the holocaust happening in the recent years in Palestine," Ahmadinejad said.

The land of Palestine, he said, referring to the British mandated territory that includes all of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, "will be freed soon."

He did not say how this would be achieved, but insisted to the audience of at least 900 people: "Believe that Palestine will be freed soon."



http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShAr ... ntrassID=0


What a Animal!

[cycloneye]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/1 ... 0o3w3.html

Iran issues a warning to the U.S.Read about it at link.

[gatorcane]

Without arousing political controversy but I truly think that our decision to go into Iraq could have serious negative long-term ramifications. It's an area of the world that is in a seemingly endless battle for not just political but for religious reasons.

Here you are seeing an example of a "ramification" - Iran sounds very confident and it does make you wonder if they have a plan to serious inflict damage to the U.S initiative in Iraq - could they already have Nuclear Weapons ready (maybe they are being made somewhere else)?

I don't like the sound of this.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Here is what I think...

I think they already have nukes...In if we try anything they will nuke the green zone where all our troops are. So they got us by the short in. Also they could send nukes across our borders. Heck they could send a army across our border in it would not be stoped. So yes this could be bad. But if they do they will be no more.

[gatorcane]

Yes Matt - I think they have nukes from the way Iran is talking....

[BEER980]

It would be a dangerous game to bluff without them. I tend to think they have them or are very close. I read this speculation the other day.

Iran possesses several nuclear warheads purchased from Central Asia and the Black Sea Fleet in the 20th century. It also has up to 3 hand made plutonium bombs acquired from the North Koreans. The Chinese and Russians both know that Iran has these weapons and will use them at the point the escalation rounds become unbearable in Tehran. The Chinese especially understand, because Bejing is proliferator in chief. Those cascades in Iran are built with Pakistani, Iraqi, North Korean, Chinese technicians. The Iranians are working with the North Koreans because the warheads they aim to produce must fit on the North Korean missiles and use the North Korean warheads.

[Stratosphere747]

Here is what I think...

I think they already have nukes...In if we try anything they will nuke the green zone where all our troops are. So they got us by the short in. Also they could send nukes across our borders. Heck they could send a army across our border in it would not be stoped. So yes this could be bad. But if they do they will be no more.

What on earth are you talking about??

Are you implying that Iran could launch a offensive attack through Mexico or Canada? Or maybe you are thinking a amphibious assault on Alaska or Hawaii....

What many fail to realize is the hatred Iran has for the United States pails in comparison to what they have for Israel.

Iran also realizes, no matter how delusional their leader is that any nuclear attack on either nation would result in the figurative end of their country.

I would be more worried that they would let weapons grade material get into the hands of terrorists, before any true nuclear weapon is made.