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Satellite shot down=Updated Analysis=Fuel Tank was destroyed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:06 pm
by cycloneye
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

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Lets hope that all goes well in this operation to send down the broken satellite.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:13 pm
by JonathanBelles
I wonder if they know where it will land yet.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:46 pm
by cycloneye
fact789 wrote:I wonder if they know where it will land yet.


They are worried about planes that may be in the area of impact that may be far away because of debris.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:11 pm
by Coredesat
cycloneye wrote:
fact789 wrote:I wonder if they know where it will land yet.


They are worried about planes that may be in the area of impact that may be far away because of debris.


Hopefully shooting it down will mitigate that problem somewhat.

Re: Pentagon will shoot down Spy Satellite in early March

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:15 pm
by cycloneye
The 'shot' -- that’s what Ambassador James Jeffrey called the decision to use an an Aegis SM-3 to try to shoot down satellite USA 193 in the next 3-12 days.

Holding the aside the politics of this — which are terrible — the briefing on debris risk left me cold. I have to say that I am very, very uneasy about this decision — our missile defense tests have been heavily scripted to minimize debris creation and modeling of debris creation isn’t an exact science.


Some are skeptical about the operation

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There are some that doubt this will work.See the reactions at link.

Re: Pentagon will shoot down Spy Satellite in early March

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:30 pm
by angelwing
Need something bigger than a tin hat for this one :eek:

I am highly uneasy with this also, it does not bode well with me at all :double:

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:37 pm
by JonathanBelles
what happens if the missle misses? Will they shoot another missle, and where will the missle go?

I wish we knew where they were gonna shoot it down from,. other than the pacific ocean.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:45 pm
by Brent
fact789 wrote:what happens if the missle misses? Will they shoot another missle, and where will the missle go?

I wish we knew where they were gonna shoot it down from,. other than the pacific ocean.


From the news today there will be 3 different chances if necessary, the first one is a week from today. I don't know how to answer the rest of it.

Re: Pentagon will shoot down Spy Satellite in early March

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:53 pm
by cycloneye
They are going to do the shooting down of the dead satellite in the Northern Pacific Ocean,where there are no islands nor plane lanes.

Re: Pentagon will shoot down Spy Satellite in early March

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:30 pm
by Stephanie
Personally, I think it is worth a try. They said that the fuel once released is lethal to those nearby it, not to mention the fact that this thing can kill many if it hits land anywhere.

I think that if we can at least try and mitigate the impact of this satellite then we should do it.

Re: Pentagon will shoot down Spy Satellite in early March

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:50 pm
by cycloneye
Stephanie wrote:Personally, I think it is worth a try. They said that the fuel once released is lethal to those nearby it, not to mention the fact that this thing can kill many if it hits land anywhere.

I think that if we can at least try and mitigate the impact of this satellite then we should do it.


I agree that they have to give it a try.But there are risks in this kind of operation that may turn bad.Lets see when the best moment to do it occurs and see if it is a success.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:05 pm
by brunota2003
Do they really care for the people? Or is it the payload that could potentially reach the earth, and provide top secret intel to other countries? I think it is the second.

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:12 pm
by cycloneye
brunota2003 wrote:Do they really care for the people? Or is it the payload that could potentially reach the earth, and provide top secret intel to other countries? I think it is the second.


That is a good point that is very important,because when the dead satellite falls somewhere,someone may steal some debris that may have valuable information.

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:16 pm
by HURAKAN
cycloneye wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:Do they really care for the people? Or is it the payload that could potentially reach the earth, and provide top secret intel to other countries? I think it is the second.


That is a good point that is very important,because when the dead satellite falls somewhere,someone may steal some debris that may have valuable information.


provide top secret intel to other countries

We have a winner!!!

I heard Cheney is asking for the priviledge to shoot it down!! j/k

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:36 pm
by Cookiely
fact789 wrote:I wonder if they know where it will land yet.

58.5N and 58.6S which pretty much covers the entire world. I'm not sure they would tell if they did know. More people would died in the evacuation than in staying put. IF they said it is going to fall in the state of Florida on March 6th, what do you think people would do? Not a pretty picture.

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:27 am
by senorpepr
brunota2003 wrote:Do they really care for the people? Or is it the payload that could potentially reach the earth, and provide top secret intel to other countries? I think it is the second.


The data on the satellite itself should not be classified. I would lean more toward the first option.

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:59 am
by brunota2003
senorpepr wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:Do they really care for the people? Or is it the payload that could potentially reach the earth, and provide top secret intel to other countries? I think it is the second.


The data on the satellite itself should not be classified. I would lean more toward the first option.

But the components onboard might provide info to other countries that the gov't doesnt want to risk losing (i.e. parts).

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:26 am
by HURAKAN
To be realistic, most of the satellite would burn in re-entry.

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:10 am
by senorpepr
brunota2003 wrote:
senorpepr wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:Do they really care for the people? Or is it the payload that could potentially reach the earth, and provide top secret intel to other countries? I think it is the second.


The data on the satellite itself should not be classified. I would lean more toward the first option.

But the components onboard might provide info to other countries that the gov't doesnt want to risk losing (i.e. parts).


I wouldn't think so. Granted, I'm not an expert, but from my understanding, the components itself wouldn't be sensitive, but rather the data/imagery the satellite obtained would be. That's not stored on the satellite, so it's really not an issue.

Re: Pentagon will shoot down Spy Satellite in early March

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:32 pm
by cycloneye
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's Defence Ministry said on Saturday a U.S. plan to shoot down an ailing spy satellite could be used as a cover to test a new space weapon.

The ministry said there was insufficient proof that Washington's decision to fire a missile at the disabled satellite was to prevent a potentially deadly leak of toxic gas as it re-entered Earth's atmosphere.

"In our opinion, the decision to destroy the U.S. satellite is not as harmless as it is being presented. Especially as the United States has been avoiding talks on restricting a space arms race for quite a long time," the ministry's information department said in a statement.


Russia says U.S. Shootdown of Satellite is a test

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Hmmm,now Russia is thumbing its nose into this.