STORM2K

Tears from Vienna

I know Che t-shirts are 'cool' and all, but he did have tens of thousands killed...

No surprise, very similar characters in our world history.

I don't know why he is even glorified.

You mean the anniversary of his death, well, our school hold a MATUTINO for us commemorating Che and we saw a documentary of the life of Che (well, anyway we are in Cuba now). By the way, I don't think Che and Hitler are similar characters. Without Che, the number of the lives lost in various civil wars and guerrilla wars would be more or less the same.

By the way, I think Hitler's home town is not Vienna, it should be a small town near Germany-Austria border,.

wyq614 wrote:You mean the anniversary of his death, well, our school hold a MATUTINO for us commemorating Che and we saw a documentary of the life of Che (well, anyway we are in Cuba now). By the way, I don't think Che and Hitler are similar characters. Without Che, the number of the lives lost in various civil wars and guerrilla wars would be more or less the same.

By the way, I think Hitler's home town is not Vienna, it should be a small town near Germany-Austria border,.

You do realize the winners (the Communists) write the history in Cuba. But no, Che didn't kill nearly as many people as Hitler killed.

BTW, everyone blames Nazi Germany for World War 2, and they certainly were the most evil. But Japan had invaded China before the war 'officially' started, (and murdered millions of civilians in cities like Nanjing) and Soviet Russia had invaded Finland. And Hitler did not invade Poland alone. Before the invasion, Hitler and Stalin's foreign ministers, von Ribbentrop and Molotov, had signed a non-aggression pact that called for both to invade Poland.

Of course later, Hitler stabbed his fellow murderous dictator in the back, and invaded Russia during 'Operation Barbarosa'. So Russia, despite being an aggressor, wound up on the winning side of the war.

For that matter, although popularly identified somehow as "right wing", Hitler's "National Socialists" and Mussolini's Fascists both adopted elements of socialist and class theory and collectivism in their philosophies, and had elements that we'd now consider both right wing and left wing.

Mussolini also started things off early by invading what is now Ethiopia in the early 1930's. Japan's adventures started earlier than the invasion of China when they took over Manchuria.

Steve

WW2 did not start in Europe as most people think. It started in Asia.

The first European country to enter the war was the Soviet Union in 1938 against Japan. Tied up their best troops along the Manchurian border and partly explains the pact with the Reich. They knew full well they would fight the Reich... they just wanted time and a small buffer zone so that their best troops could keep the Japanese from re-entering Soviet territory

As for the most evil... NOTHING beats the Soviet mass rape of German women at the end of the war.

Derek Ortt wrote:WW2 did not start in Europe as most people think. It started in Asia.

The first European country to enter the war was the Soviet Union in 1938 against Japan. Tied up their best troops along the Manchurian border and partly explains the pact with the Reich. They knew full well they would fight the Reich... they just wanted time and a small buffer zone so that their best troops could keep the Japanese from re-entering Soviet territory

As for the most evil... NOTHING beats the Soviet mass rape of German women at the end of the war.

I'd argue the Soviet mass murders of Polish POWS was pretty evil, and the death camps where civilians were executed for being born Roma (Gypsy) or Jewish, well, I think that sets the modern standard. For that matter, Stalin holding his forces outside of Warsaw during the ghetto uprising, so his current enemy the Germans could wipe out a potential adversary, the Polish Jews, was quite evil as well. Hitler, Mao and Stalin were all responsible for millions of innocent deaths.