STORM2K

WILL THIS BE ENOUGH?

Either Saddam or bin Laden loyalists shot down an American helicopter yesterday in Iraq. Fifteen American soldiers were killed. Islamic radicals are hoping that this will be the Iraqi equivalent of the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. After that explosion the U.S. promptly packed up its gear and ran like hell. That event, by the way, was 20 years ago last week. Islamic terrorists celebrate this yet today as proof of American weakness. They have other examples to cite. In 1996 it was Mogadishu. Another helicopter was shot down and young Americans died. America ran again. We even ran that time leaving our dead behind.

Islamic terrorists and Saddam's Sunni Baathist goons obviously believe that they can make America run again, and they're getting no small amount of comfort from America's leftists in general and the Democratic presidential candidates in particular. If you listen to John Kerry as soon as he finishes telling you that he served in Vietnam he will make it clear that if the decision were his to make America would once again start packing.

The only way these Islamic terrorists can succeed in bringing Saddam's reign of terror back to Iraq is for America to lose its resolve. Democrats are working mightily to bring that to pass. It's called appeasement, and it's the leftist way of life.


FROM NEAL BOORTZ

rainstorm wrote:WILL THIS BE ENOUGH?

Either Saddam or bin Laden loyalists shot down an American helicopter yesterday in Iraq. Fifteen American soldiers were killed. Islamic radicals are hoping that this will be the Iraqi equivalent of the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. After that explosion the U.S. promptly packed up its gear and ran like hell. That event, by the way, was 20 years ago last week. Islamic terrorists celebrate this yet today as proof of American weakness. They have other examples to cite. In 1996 it was Mogadishu. Another helicopter was shot down and young Americans died. America ran again. We even ran that time leaving our dead behind.

Islamic terrorists and Saddam's Sunni Baathist goons obviously believe that they can make America run again, and they're getting no small amount of comfort from America's leftists in general and the Democratic presidential candidates in particular. If you listen to John Kerry as soon as he finishes telling you that he served in Vietnam he will make it clear that if the decision were his to make America would once again start packing.

The only way these Islamic terrorists can succeed in bringing Saddam's reign of terror back to Iraq is for America to lose its resolve. Democrats are working mightily to bring that to pass. It's called appeasement, and it's the leftist way of life.


FROM NEAL BOORTZ

Now they can read the minds of loyalists. Wish our intel would have been that good pre 911. Seems to me they are just trying to sell their case for war You don't have to be a democrat to see what this war was about It's sad that we worry more about what happens in Iraq then we do in our own country

I hear ya Johnathan!!

Well Johnathan, it could be the other way around, with a president who cares too much about home and not enough about international relations. That's why I favor neither Clinton or Bush. Both are pretty bad IMO.

All politicaians in my opinion are the same...Don't give a razoo for the public in general and do what either they want to do or the high end of town want. As in a essence that helps them as well so the two points are linked.

Home was looking pretty good a few years back...

I'm with Rainstorm. We can't go out like cowards.
I'd like us to get out of there as much as everyone else, but we need to do it honorably, for the right reasons, and after something is accomplished. I believe that there are too many things at stake for us to just run away. Like it or not, the US is the pre-emminent nation in the world, and there is a lot of responsibility with that. The world is a mess and without some stabilizing influence, it will get worse. Saddam Hussein had to go. The UN lacked the ability and the will to do anything. We stepped in. We're there. Let's try to turn it into something good. If we leave, the thugs will take over again and it will be worse.

There's people out there who hate us. They have this vision of the world that is contrary to ours. They don't believe in freedom. If we give them Iraq, they won't stop. It took our country 50-some years to defeat communism. there were lots of dark moments in that struggle. We persevered and we prevailed. We didn't win the cold war by being nice. Even JF Kennedy (a democrat) took a hard line and had success. Being nice to this kind of adversary only gives them time to regroup and reload.
Sorry folks, there's evil in the world and it must be resisted. There will never be heaven on earth. This is the battleground between good and evil.

People complain about things being bad here. There's billions of people who wish they could have it bad here.

I agree that we have a responsibility to finish what we have started.

Ed, ditto what you said...I'm too tired right now to wax eloquent about this subject.

My reservations about this mission in IRaq have not been about standing up and fighting its been about being there in the first place. I agree we need to stand up and go on the offensive against terrorism. My reservation was the reasoning that Iraq was the next logical step in the war on terror. I don't believe invading Iraq should have been the next logical step, Too me it was more settling an old score invading Iraq.That being said it doesn't matter now, we are there and we just can't cut and run. We need to support our troops and come up with a plan to ensure them victory in Iraq and in any other military actions that may be needed in the war on terror

my feeling is this war was declared against us years ago. each time we have been attacked we have reacted in a way that encourages the terrorists to kill more of us. if we cut and run this time, our whole way of life will be at stake.

While I understand the importance of not leaving them in disaster, I believe the money going to it is just plain ridiculous! We have people dying on disasterous streets in our OWN country, do they see any support? Maybe I just have too soft of a heart to be in discussions like this, and maybe I don't have enough knowledge, so I think I will do the best by me and keep my mouth shut from here on out.......I have never cared for politics, so it won't be too hard a task!

the time has passed for us to REACT to what terrorists do to us. war has been declared, and we must take that war to them. how different would history be if churchill had decided that fighting hitler would cost too many lives, and too much money. the easy thing to do is quit, the right thing to do is win.

rainstorm wrote:my feeling is this war was declared against us years ago. each time we have been attacked we have reacted in a way that encourages the terrorists to kill more of us. if we cut and run this time, our whole way of life will be at stake.

I don't say this very often ... but I agree 100% with this ...

I agree rainstorm. We can't cut and run. But the article fails to mention that Gephardt doesn't want to cut and run. Your points would be much better received if the articles you make your points with weren't so obviously biased.

wx247 wrote:I agree rainstorm. We can't cut and run. But the article fails to mention that Gephardt doesn't want to cut and run. Your points would be much better received if the articles you make your points with weren't so obviously biased.

True.

rainstorm wrote:the time has passed for us to REACT to what terrorists do to us. war has been declared, and we must take that war to them. how different would history be if churchill had decided that fighting hitler would cost too many lives, and too much money. the easy thing to do is quit, the right thing to do is win.

THIS is no comparison to hitler Hitler killed Millions of people and invaded other countires The later is Kind of like us

thanks sf. i feel like this is one of those turning points in history. i personally think the country would look on the democrats much more favorably if they stood behind the president on this. i feel our enemies see what has happened in the past, and they think they can easily defeat us.

rainstorm wrote:thanks sf. i feel like this is one of those turning points in history. i personally think the country would look on the democrats much more favorably if they stood behind the president on this. i feel our enemies see what has happened in the past, and they think they can easily defeat us.

You seem to be blinded by your politics with all due respect.

Rainband wrote:

rainstorm wrote:the time has passed for us to REACT to what terrorists do to us. war has been declared, and we must take that war to them. how different would history be if churchill had decided that fighting hitler would cost too many lives, and too much money. the easy thing to do is quit, the right thing to do is win.

THIS is no comparison to hitler Hitler killed Millions of people and invaded other countires The later is Kind of like us

is here. our enemies would happily exterminate every one of us. to equate us with hitler is repugnant. you dont win a war by fighting and dying on your own soil. to win a war tough decisions have to be made. chuchill made a tough decision in 1940 by destroying the french fleet at toulon and in the process killing thousands of french sailors, but it was the right thing to do. war has been declared on us.