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Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:55 pm**

10 Commandments’ judge removed

Ala. judicial panel says Moore placed himself ‘above the law’

BREAKING NEWS

MONTGOMERY, Ala., Nov. 13 — The Alabama chief justice whose refusal to obey a U.S. order to move a Ten Commandments monument fueled a national debate over the place of God in public life was stripped of his office by a state judicial panel Thursday.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:01 pm**

I am sure that we all knew that this was coming.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:02 pm**

Ouch.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:04 pm**

While I greatly admire the stance he took he did defy a higher court order. The highest court is on his side though! :-)

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:07 pm**

I agree, mf I also admire the stance that he took. I can't believe he was ordered to remove them in the first place. They are what our laws are based on.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:12 pm**

I also agree with the stance he took in opposition to removing the Ten Commandments. However, our judicial system could fall to pieces if we allow defiance from the left and the right without keeping it in check. If he had continued to fight the battle judicially, he might have eventually won. However, he chose a different path and went against the oath he took to uphold his position with judicial ethics.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:54 pm**

Ouch!

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:03 pm**

He put his beliefs ahead of his career. The law is the law though, even if you do not like it.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:41 pm**

I agree with what all of you said.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:47 pm**

Our nation's motto is "One Nation Under God"...apparently those that unbenched Judge Moore don't "see" it that way. Pretty sad day in America.

Eric

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:58 pm**

Those who did probably agree with our nation's motto. However, he swore the judicial oath, probably with his hand on the Bible, and he didn't honor that oath.

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Alabama, and obey the laws thereof; that I am not disqualified from holding the office of __________; that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God."

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:03 pm**

Yet others in society are allowed to "advertise" through freedoms of expression, press and speech...perhaps at times they've gone way too FAR then, too.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:16 pm**

I admire him for sticking by his faith. I am sure he realized he may loose his position by acting as he did, but he chose to risk that, by setting an example of upholding his faith and his beliefs.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:17 pm**

BTW...HELLO ERIC! How have you been? Missed you!

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:20 pm**

He's just as free to express his dislike for the ruling to remove the Ten Commandments as we all are. However, the Alabama state constitution says,

SECTION 173

Governor, lieutenant-governor, attorney-general, state auditor, secretary of state, state treasurer, superintendent of education, commissioner of agriculture and industries and justices of supreme court.

The governor, lieutenant-governor, attorney-general, state auditor, secretary of state, state treasurer, superintendent of education, commissioner of agriculture and industries, and justices of the supreme court may be removed from office for willful neglect of duty, corruption in office, incompetency, or intemperance in the use of intoxicating liquors or narcotics to such an extent, in view of the dignity of the office and importance of its duties, as unfits the officer for the discharge of such duties, or for any offense involving moral turpitude while in office, or committed under color thereof, or connected therewith, by the senate sitting as a court of impeachment, under oath or affirmation, on articles or charges preferred by the house of representatives. When the governor or lieutenant-governor is impeached, the chief justice, or if he be absent or disqualified, then one of the associate justices of the supreme court, to be selected by it, shall preside over the senate when sitting as a court of impeachment. If at any time when the legislature is not in session, a majority of all the members elected to the house of representatives shall certify in writing to the secretary of state their desire to meet to consider the impeachment of the governor, lieutenant-governor, or other officer administering the office of governor, it shall be the duty of the secretary of state immediately to notify the speaker of the house, who shall, within ten days after receipt of such notice, summon the members of the house, by publication in some newspaper published at the capitol, to assemble at the capitol on a day to be fixed by the speaker, not later than fifteen days after the receipt of the notice to him from the secretary of state, to consider the impeachment of the governor, lieutenant-governor, or other officer administering the office of governor. If the house of representatives prefer articles of impeachment, the speaker of the house shall forthwith notify the lieutenant-governor, unless he be the officer impeached, in which event he shall notify the secretary of state, who shall summon, in the manner herein above provided for, the members of the senate to assemble at the capitol on a day to be named in said summons, not later than ten days after receipt of the notice from the speaker of the house, for the purpose of organizing as a court of impeachment. The senate, when thus organized, shall hear and try such articles of impeachment against the governor, lieutenant-governor, or other officer administering the office of governor, as may be preferred by the house of representatives.

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/Code ... 245712.htm

By removing him, no one is saying they agree with the decision to remove the Ten Commandments. It has nothing to do with the Ten Commandments staying or going. It has to do with the fact that he did not uphold the decision of a higher court and, therefore, was unethical for not upholding the oath of his position. If it had been a liberal judge, I would hope the same decision would be made to make him step down.

What if the judge in the case of Terry Schiavo refused to order her tube placed back in, even though the Florida legislation and Governor said otherwise? He wouldn't have been upholding the law and he would have been removed also.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:25 pm**

Again...I admire his stand, but he as a judge has a duty to uphold and follow the law. His personal feelings are just that, and he had a responsibility to follow the ruling of the court above him. He should have resigned and then refused to remove them or followed the rule of law and removed them under written protest. He has to pay the price for his decision even if I support his stand.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:28 pm**

I agree Jara!

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:36 pm**

furluvcats wrote:BTW...HELLO ERIC! How have you been? Missed you!

Well, I've said all that I care to about this issue other than there's much to be desired about some of our national and state laws. :wink:

Howdy Shannon!

Yes, I've been hopping around to a handful of wx boards sites and that's why I'm not here at Storm2K a whole lot but try to get over here, too!

Eric

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:02 pm**

GalvestonDuck wrote:Those who did probably agree with our nation's motto. However, he swore the judicial oath, probably with his hand on the Bible, and he didn't honor that oath.

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Alabama, and obey the laws thereof; that I am not disqualified from holding the office of __________; that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God."

AMEN A MILLION TIMES DUCK!!! I too admire his stance, but there has to be a line drawn and if he was allowed to cross it, well, we all know what can of worms that would open. I dont believe that it was an easy decision for them to make but they had an obligation too.

Posted: **Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:47 pm**

moore was voted by the ppl from what i understand and they knew how he was.. he stood up for what he believed but alot of ppl think its just to get attention and that he has higher motives. like govener ect. i like to think the best of ppl and that he is not using this. again as i have said before they r taking god out of everything. :cry:

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