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GREAT WORDS FROM JFK

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:27 pm
by rainstorm
"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"
sadly that has changed.
now it is: "how much money will the politicians i vote for steal from other people and give to me?"
a very sad day indeed. :cry:

wow, sad indeed

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:33 pm
by WXBUFFJIM
Sounds more like today's statement comes from donald rumsfeld and yesterday's better statement came from the man JFK. Could you imagine what life would be like if he was still alive today?? :eek:

Jim

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:37 pm
by mf_dolphin
Steal means to take via illegal means. Whether we like it or not the laws and the taxes that pay for them are how our government works. If you don't like it work to change it. Spewing radical rhetoric only tends to turn people off and minimize your arguements.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:44 pm
by rainstorm
not at all. the govt takes peoples money at the point of a gun. refuse to give your money to them and see what happens. it is legalized theft and vote buying.
heres the diff:
if i want something someone else has and point a gun at someones head and take it, i am a crook. but if i vote for a politician to stal the money for me, it is fine and dandy

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:52 pm
by mf_dolphin
Helen if you are so against our form of government why not leave the country? For all it's faults it's the best I've seen in the world and I've lived in or visited at least 30 other ones... The government is elected by the majority in accordance with our laws. That makes it legal whether you like it or not. To classify it as theft is just more rhetoric.....

Re: wow, sad indeed

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:25 pm
by stormchazer
WXBUFFJIM wrote:Sounds more like today's statement comes from donald rumsfeld and yesterday's better statement came from the man JFK. Could you imagine what life would be like if he was still alive today?? :eek:

Jim


Hmmm...what did JFK do? His Presidency was difficult to say the least and his murder a tragedy. As far as I know he botched the invasion of Cuba, ordered MLK spied upon and committed more troops to Vietnam. True he stood up to the Russians and gave dignity to the White House but he also had illicit affairs and questionable judgement in regards to foriegn affairs. I doubt if he was alive today, much would be different.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:28 pm
by mf_dolphin
I doubt if history will be as kind to his Presidency as the image that is burned into our memories by the scene of his children at his funeral. Tragic yes but a great President? Not in my opinion...

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:02 pm
by ColdFront77
President John Fitzgerald Kennedy wrote:"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country!"

This quote from President Kennedy is the motto of the high school I attended.

a great quote tom

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:20 pm
by rainstorm
ColdFront77 wrote:
President John Fitzgerald Kennedy wrote:"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country!"

This quote from President Kennedy is the high school I attended motto.


it seems to have lost its meaning today though

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:23 pm
by mf_dolphin
I agree with you there. It's the symptom of the Me Generation. Of course when I was growing up the adults said the same thing bout the "Love Generation"...time has a way of seasoning people and bringing reality and moderation to peoples views. :-)

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:24 pm
by ColdFront77
I suppose so.

Sorry for editing my post... it wasn't worded right. * sigh *

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:19 pm
by streetsoldier
Jack Kennedy got it wrong...he should have said,

"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for YOURSELF. If you find yourself TRUTHFULLY unable to serve your own self-interest, THEN you may apply for the government to assist you...not capriciously, but well-documented cases alone will be heard, and assistance given."

Now, who can argue with THAT? :-?

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:39 am
by rainstorm
very true, soldier, i agree.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:51 am
by j
I would have to say JFK was the last good Democrat in office. However...if he lived in today's Media scrutinizing, dirt digging, slinging, desecrating world, he'd have suffered a fate just like Clinton! (another 4 years no doubt).

But in all seriousness, he had his good points, and in todays political arena, he would probably be considered a moderate Republican. He was Reaganisque in his stance against Communism, and one of the only supporters of Joe McCarthy.