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Is Torture ok, and if so, what kind would you recommend?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:27 am
by j
I've heard a lot of disheartening news from former battlefeild interrogators, as to what kind of "torture" they are allowed to use to get capture POW's (which I'm assuming these Captured suspected Terrorists fall under) to talk. For instance: Sleep depravation...max. of 4 hours in a 24 hour period, not neccesarily consecutive. Wow......now that is so mean! Hell I used to live on less than that every day of my life when I was in my early 20"s!

If you could make the rules....What kind of torture would you use?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:31 am
by chadtm80
i say whatever it takes to get those bastards to talk.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:57 am
by azsnowman
Hmmm, this could get very interesting LOL! Well, for starters, why not use the old Chinese water torture then slowly progress into something a little more sadistic, like ummm...hmmm I'd better think on this one!

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:34 am
by j
I Like this method:

Tie the murderers to the ground securly over some freshly sprouting bamboo shoots. I believe this is a torture the Viet Cong used.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:12 am
by mf_dolphin
I would stop just short of anything that would kill them... but just short :grrr:

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:56 am
by Rainband
Anything that works and when they talk..KILL THEM :x :x :x :x :x




Johnathan :grrr:

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:04 pm
by isobar
Somebody get streetsoldier on this thread!

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:12 pm
by mf_dolphin
Isobar, I'm not sure we can print what he'll have to say :o

(but I bet I'll agree with him :D )
:D :D :D

The Rack

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 3:24 pm
by Aslkahuna
would be a good start followed by slowly and surgically (without anesthesia) dismantling their body and then disposing of what's left after they tell EVERYTHING.

Steve

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 4:38 pm
by azsnowman
Well, you could tie a string to his *you know what* with wieghts on the other end, then slowly add more wieghts to it until he talks. Of course there's always the old *honey and ant hill method*

Dennis

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 4:55 pm
by wannabehippie
i hope that people here that are posting supporting torture are doing it with tongue in cheek.

while some psychological pressure (ie sleep depravation in a brightly light room) is borderline in my book, the rest of what is suggested is just wrong.

think of the outrage you would feel if the enemy did that to one of our citizens. everyone who here is supporting it, would be crying out bloody murder.

physical torture is wrong, plain and simple. the persons captured are the enemy, but we should treat them as we would hope our soldiers and citizens would be if captured, however unlikely.

to stoop to physical torture is to stoop to their level.


peace
david

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:00 pm
by j
azsnowman...you got me thinking now.

How about this: We tie him securely to a chair naked. Next we rig up a line anchored at one end to his shriveled up manhood...the other end to a movement sensitive trigger mechanism wired to a sack of plastic explosives taped to his head. Next we set up the IV and let a steady drip of liquid Viagra enter his bloodstream. Eventually....to the utter delight of the cheering laughing crowd....he rises involuntarily and BOOM!!! His head is removed from his body and his aching erection is allowed to subside giving him much needed relief.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:01 pm
by j
wannabe....did you just get off the plane with the rest of the Human Shields??

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:04 pm
by JQ Public
I don't really have an opinion sometimes torture helps the situation, but then again you have no real justification for getting mad when someone captures someone on our side and does the same thing to them. We can be pleasantly surprised by nonviolent "torture".

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:06 pm
by Rainband
j wrote:wannabe....did you just get off the plane with the rest of the Human Shields??
In my opinion the way they treated our innocent civilians on SEPTEMBER 11 supercedes all my humanitarian concerns :x :x So I agree with j :wink:



Johnathan

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:10 pm
by mf_dolphin
Wannabehippie, this man planned the horrifying death of thousands of people. Animals deserve to be treated like animals. I would have absolutely no problem with real torture being used in this case at all. I am not saying that tongue in cheek, I am dead serious.!

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:11 pm
by chadtm80
I coudnt agree more. This guy has NO rights... Do whatever it takes to get him to spill the beans on the rest of the dirt bags.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:12 pm
by azsnowman
Ya know, no matter what we all think, these ppl are willing to die for their beliefs, the more you torture them, the bigger their *rewards* will be in their way of thinking.

LOL j.....never thought about that one!

wannabe, have you not read the bible, it states, "An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth!" From what I gather from your statement, you'd be willing to *forgive* them for what they did on Sept 11th, slap their hands, let 'em walk away??

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:16 pm
by Rainband
I say lay him down and drop concrete slabs on him. Let the slab inch there way closer and closer and then let them all hit him one after the other. Let the Scumbag feel what those people did when the towers collapsed. Oh BTW sprinkle him with jet fuel and light a match...IS THAT SERIOUS ENOUGH FOR YOU!!!!! He is a monster and deserves to DIE!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! Not tongue and cheek..but bone by bone!!!



Johnathan :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:18 pm
by JQ Public
I think the kinds of torture you guys are advocating show that we can stoop to the same levels as these guys. If you wanna show how civilized we are compared to the terrorists i don't think torturing them with cement blocks and what not clarifies the difference.