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"Where's the Beef?"

#1 Postby azsnowman » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:05 am

Just curious, with another cow having Mad Cow Disease, has this changed your eating habits? Me.......NO WAY, I LOVE my meat, 2" thick T bone, medium rare off the grill, ground beef tacos, bbq beef ribs, you name, we EAT our FAIR share of beef and with the beef prices plumeting, we're filling our chest freezer FULL, I'm buying the whole cuts, whole strip loins (ny steaks) whole boneless ribeyes, whole butt tenders (fillet mignon) and cutting them myself, saves us about 3$ per pound by doing this, I'm also making our own burger, buying whole chucks (front quarters) and doing my own grinding! Here's the story of the other cow!



Hunt is continuing for clues to origin of disease in Wash.

Marc Kaufman
Washington Post
Jan. 3, 2004 12:00 AM


WASHINGTON - The Agriculture Department has quarantined a third cattle herd in Washington state after locating another cow from the Canadian shipment believed to have contained the animal with the nation's first known case of mad-cow disease.

W. Ron DeHaven, the department's deputy administrator and chief veterinary officer, said Friday that a dairy farm near Yakima was quarantined this week when the cow was found. With the discovery of that animal, he said, the government has located 11 of the 82 cows from the Alberta herd that was shipped into Washington in September 2001, and it has good leads on many of the others.

DeHaven said the agency is searching for the animals not because it fears they can spread the disease but because tracing them may help authorities identify the source of potentially contaminated feed consumed by the cow when it was young. That feed could have been the source of the infection. Nonetheless, he said the animals in all of the quarantined herds may be slaughtered to ease public concerns about the safety of American beef.

DeHaven also said the U.S. and Canadian governments were moving forward with testing the DNA of the infected Holstein as well as the semen from the bull believed to be its father to confirm whether it was from, as suspected, a herd in Alberta. He said the governments expect to have an answer next week, although even these findings may not be conclusive.

"While the DNA testing may enable us to make a definitive determination, it is just one piece of information, and there's always opportunity for error," he said.

As an example of the possible limitations of the DNA testing, DeHaven said that although the infected Holstein is believed to have been conceived through artificial insemination using semen from an identified bull, it is possible that a different bull was actually the father. To ensure that the cows are impregnated, he said, breeders routinely send in "cleanup bulls" to mate with cows that have previously been artificially inseminated.

After Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman's announcement this week that "downer" cows, those too sick or crippled to walk, will be no longer allowed into the food chain, the beef industry has been working with the agency to set up a system to ensure they are not slaughtered, DeHaven said.

In addition, he said, the government and industry have been working on new ways to make sure that many of the downer cows are tested for mad-cow disease now that they won't be going to slaughterhouses.

One of the ideas being considered is to pay feedlot owners to bring in their downer cows for testing.



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#2 Postby Miss Mary » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:25 am

Dennis - I gave up beef 90% of the time after I had cancer. Beef is the hardest and slowest meat to digest, so I stayed away from it. Occasionally I want BBQ or pot roast, but since turkey and chicken agree with me more that's what I eat. Now with the threat of mad cow, it just reinforces my decision to skip beef. I should add that as a family we don't eat much meat anyway. Very small amounts and now Nina is a vegetarian (for 6 months).

I haven't had a steak in over 8 years and do not miss it at all.

Mary
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#3 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:27 am

Beef, Beef, and more Beef.. I am a big Meat and potatoes type of guy.. Having a GREAT BIG FAT rump Roast tonight.. My mout is watering just thinking about it.. Jenn has it marinating as we speak!!!!!!!!!!
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#4 Postby Skywatch_NC » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:37 am

My folks and I have decided to not eat anymore "mixed" meat beef products
...we'll still eat steak, roast beef, etc., though. Will incorporate more poultry and fish into our eating regimens, too.

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#5 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:52 am

No meat for me. I do not eat meat for health issues. I just have a hard time eating anything that used to live. lol. If I do not think about it then I am fine. When I think about it, I get sick to my stomach.

My Mother was preparing the turkey for Thanksgiving and I would shake my head and say "Poor thing"
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#6 Postby Miss Mary » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:55 am

Lindaloo wrote:No meat for me. I do not eat meat for health issues. I just have a hard time eating anything that used to live. lol. If I do not think about it then I am fine. When I think about it, I get sick to my stomach.

My Mother was preparing the turkey for Thanksgiving and I would shake my head and say "Poor thing"


Linda - you and my daughter Nina would get along great! I can't even get her to eat seafood or fish b/c it had a face. But I'm close to being that way. If chicken and turkey weren't part of the 10 basic foods for me to have good colon health, I could give it up for the same reasons. I do eat meat to a minimal extent though. Now I feel guilty after reading what you just posted.

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#7 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:56 am

Wimps.. lol

Runs and hides
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#8 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:57 am

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#9 Postby Miss Mary » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:58 am

chadtm80 wrote:Wimps.. lol

Runs and hides


We're not wimps Chad!!! With me it all started with learning how circus animals are REALLY treated for me to re-think this whole animal thing. Maybe this will be my year to become a vegetarian. Mmmm, something to think about. I can't even bring myself to go to a zoo now. I end up crying the whole time. And I can't imagine going back to the way I used to be.

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#10 Postby Skywatch_NC » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:05 pm

Anymore, maybe vegetarian may be the way to go for extended life health.
I have read online, too, actual (yes, true) horror stories of practices in meat-packing plants/slaughterhouses! :eek: And yes, I have a cousin who is a slaughterhouse manager in Ohio.

http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/s ... ouses.html


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#11 Postby Miss Mary » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:14 pm

Can I ask one simple question and I don't want details, please can't stomach that......how are cows killed in slaughterhouses? By injection, bullet, beheading? I don't even know and on one level I don't want to know but last week as this mad cow story surfaced there were many vivid pictures from slaughterhouses. One was a single cow, in a metal contraption. The poor thing probably had a heart attack as it was about to be killed.
Thanks. Again, go easy on details.

Mary

PS - wow Eric, maybe I don't even need this question answered. Glimpsed at that sight. That was enough for me. A vegan diet is healthier, that's a known fact, and a light-diet is even better (to be on the thin side), in other words small portions instead of huge ones. Boy this could make me a vegetarian....time will tell.
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#12 Postby Stephanie » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:17 pm

I'm a meat & potatoes kind of girl. I love beef though I don't eat it all the time.
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#13 Postby Skywatch_NC » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:20 pm

My cousin on a tour of his slaughterhouse one time (it was during a holiday weekend) no workers present except for him...he gave his brother, my sister and I a look-around...and said that they kill cattle by using a stun bolt gun through the cow's skull and into the brain...supposed to make the animal "unconscious" before the process of butchering...but who really fully knows if the animal doesn't feel some pain...before death does come. I've heard that hogs are killed by electric current to render them "unconscious" before processing.

Just looking at the site I posted makes me nauseated! :eek: :(

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#14 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:23 pm

said that they kill cattle by using a stun bolt gun through the cow's skull and into the brain...

Yep
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#15 Postby wx247 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:25 pm

I eat meat... but I tend to stray away from beef...even slightly more so now that this has happened. Not necessarily because of mad cow, but I just don't think the beef is truly all that safe. I don't eat Chinese foods either because something about the way they cook their meat makes me sick.

I tend to eat turkey,chicken, and pork but I can't bring myself to eat deer.
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#16 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:28 pm

Ya better run and hide Chad!! LOL!! BTW, I do not even like that group PETA!! They are in the same category as the Black Caucus, ACLU, NAACP and radical environmentalist groups.

I know how they slaughter cows, sheep, pigs. Has anyone ever seen a Chinchila? They are the cutest little things. But yet, are killed for their fur. They are not very big either so the slaughter is by the millions every year!! What about tuna fish?!! I boycotted tuna years ago when I learned they were killing dolphins in their nets.
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#17 Postby chadtm80 » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:29 pm

I do not even like that group PETA!!

I know, just wanted to let you know they were on your side though,. LOL
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#18 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:34 pm

Aw geesh, just what I need. LOL!!
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#19 Postby Stephanie » Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:40 pm

PETA totally defeats the purpose of every other well-meaning organization trying to help and save animals. They are a bunch of wackos!
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#20 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:01 pm

Stephanie wrote:PETA totally defeats the purpose of every other well-meaning organization trying to help and save animals. They are a bunch of wackos!


I agree 100% :D
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