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MoveOn.org can move on off the internet as far as I'm concerned.
This ad is outrageous!!!!!!


NEW YORK — What MoveOn.org wanted was for people to submit 30-second ads that were critical of President Bush, but what the liberal-leaning organization got was a controversy over one entry that compared Bush to Adolf Hitler.


The ad in question used a tape recording of the Nazi leader speaking while it showed images of Hitler and German military prowess during World War II. At the end of the ad, a photo of Bush raising his hand to take the oath of office is seen.

"A nation warped by lies. Lies fuel fear. Fear fuels aggression. Invasion. Occupation. What were war crimes in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003," the ad said.

Republican groups and Jewish organizations expressed outrage over the ad, which has been removed from the MoveOn.org Web site. The Republican National Committee called on all nine Democratic candidates to condemn the ads.

RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie called the ad, "the worst and most vile form of political hate speech."

MoveOn.org is "using the memory of that genocide as a political prop," American Jewish Congress President Jack Rosen wrote in the Wall Street Journal on Monday, referring to the Holocaust.

"President Bush has shown us leadership in Iraq, and our troops have liberated a people who were oppressed by another murderous dictator … comparing the commander-in-chief of a democratic nation to the murderous tyrant Hitler is not only historically specious, it is morally outrageous," Rosen continued.

MoveOn.org spokesman Trevor Fitzgibbon said, "we had no idea the Hitler thing even existed."

The group, which claims to have a network of about 2 million online activists, said that the ad comparing Bush to Hitler was one of the 1,512 submissions from the general public submitted as part of a campaign called Bushin30seconds.com.

MoveOn.org claims the ad was not submitted by an organization and was ultimately removed from the Web site. MoveOn.org noted that the "Hitler" comparison was not among the 15 finalists that are now viewable on the Web.

The group argued that the RNC is making this an issue and it should not be held responsible for what was submitted to their contest by a private citizen, particularly since MoveOn.org itself apparently disavowed the ad.

Gillespie told Fox News that MoveOn.org will spend more than $1 million a day to support Bush's defeat in November and he said that the organization planned to spend $7 million to air whatever ad wins the organization's contest.

"That's the kind of tactics we're seeing on the left today in support of these Democratic presidential candidates," Gillespie said.

A panel of celebrity judges like actor Jack Black, Hollywood director Michael Moore, Democratic strategist Donna Brazile, director and author Gus Van Sant, musician Michael Stipe, comedienne Margaret Cho, actress Janeane Garofalo and musician Moby are supposed to pick the best entries.

MoveOn.org announced the finalists Monday afternoon. With over 2.9 million votes cast, the group said the final ads "perfectly capture the grassroots approach to politics we're pioneering together."

Bush in 30 Seconds Live, an awards show to celebrate the ads and announce the winner, will be held in the New York area Jan. 12.

source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107426,00.html

thats what "openminded" liberals do all the time. they are the champions of intolerance

If this is what the left is going to do, they are going to lose more votes than they gain.

saw this on O'reilly last night, and again on Hannity & Colmes. The ad speaks for itself. I would be so ashamed to be a member of the Democratic party this morning. Watch carefully as the candidates slip,slide and dodge this ever growing "hate" theme.

Did moveon.org endorse this ad? I did not watch tv last night so I am out of the loop.

If I remember correctly...no they did not.

Standard conservative BS. You go and find the farthest left anti-Bush stuff you can and then use that as an example of how the entire liberal establishment has gone off the deep-end. It would be like me using the most extreme statement Rush Limbaugh has ever said as an example of how right-wingers are racist and extremists (which for the most part is not true).

So, this ad was just submitted by somebody to moveon.org?

If so, then this is a select group of people who would make this assumption.

If not, then who is responsible for it?

Sorry for sounding lost. I read the article and it confused me.

the point is.....whether its a select group or not, the website allowed it. Then, decided it was offensive.

No kidding!

This is crazy. There is no comparison to Hitler!!

I do agree that is nuts. Bush and Hitler are not alike in so many different ways. While I may not agree with everything Bush has done, he is not Hitleresque.

I definitely see no comparison between Bush and Hitler. That is going too far. (and I'm not Republican).

When the "heat was on", MoveOn.org pulled the ad...yet it was on that site for at least two months, and NOTHING was said except for one of the commentators at FoxNews in mid-November, during a round-table session (I remember viewing it, AND going to the website to see this myself).

It was largely based on George Soros' description of the Bush Administration as "Nazi", and apparently gained approval from the hard-liners at the site before the ad came under public scrutiny.

The Dems are scratching at straws, trying to find some "magic strategy" to "get Bush"...and only hurting themselves in the process.

Feanáro wrote:Standard conservative BS. You go and find the farthest left anti-Bush stuff you can and then use that as an example of how the entire liberal establishment has gone off the deep-end. It would be like me using the most extreme statement Rush Limbaugh has ever said as an example of how right-wingers are racist and extremists (which for the most part is not true).

It is not BS when they compare The President of the United States to Hitler. It does not matter which side or website posted it, it is absurd!!

And you are right Bill, the Dems are grasping for straws.

as i said, if you are looking for hate and intolerance, just look at the left wing of the dem party

both extremes are bad news... not just the extreme left.

rainstorm wrote:as i said, if you are looking for hate and intolerance, just look at the left wing of the dem party

**HIGH FIVE**

wx247 wrote:both extremes are bad news... not just the extreme left.

What about the people in the middle?

I thought the monkey was in the middle :-?

Lindaloo wrote:

wx247 wrote:both extremes are bad news... not just the extreme left.

What about the people in the middle?

the people in the middle... on BOTH sides... keep this country running.