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Mel Gibson: "I'm having doubts about Bush"-Drudge

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:31 pm
by JTD
From the drudgereport.com.

In a wide-ranging hour-long interview with FOXNEWSABCRADIO's Sean Hannity, PASSION OF THE CHRIST director Mel Gibson says he now has 'doubts' about President Bush and re-election... MORE... In the interview, set to air on Tuesday , Gibson says of Bush: 'I am having doubts, of late. It mainly has to do with the weapons [of mass destruction] claims'... MORE... The surprisingly critical comments from Gibson, a rare conservative voice in Hollywood, come as PASSION continues to dominate the boxoffice.

I think that Pres. Bush is in a great deal of political trouble. This only serves to solidfy that view.

What are your thoughts?

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:42 pm
by stormchazer
Listen to me....everyone!

It is March!! A lot of things will happen in the next 8-10 months. Quit acting like your the last defender on the wall at the Alamo! Sheesh! I'm losing my mind! AHHHHHHHH! (Best Dean Impersonation)

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:44 pm
by JTD
Stormchaser, this is great news to me. I'm a Kerry supporter. I'm not jumping off the bridge at all. lol.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:53 pm
by southerngale
Jason...why do you support Kerry? I'm just wondering because I honestly can't find anything to support him on so I wanted a supporter's perspective. 8-)

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:00 pm
by JTD
Southerngale, I'm at school right now but when I get home, I'll write you a proper explanation of why I support Kerry. Thanks for asking.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:08 pm
by GalvestonDuck
jason0509 wrote:I think that Pres. Bush is in a great deal of political trouble. This only serves to solidfy that view.

What are your thoughts?


As far as I'm concerned, I don't think W is in any more trouble today than he was yesterday or the day before that or three weeks before "The Passion Of The Christ" opened.

Okay, so he's also a Catholic and conservative like me. But Mel Gibson does not vote in my place. I go to the polls on my own and vote how I wish to vote. I do not follow what he says to do or say (I may agree and do likewise on some things, but not because he says so).

And so he made a powerful movie about the crucifixion? It wasn't the first and it won't be the last. I saw it this weekend. Four words -- good, but not original. It was not as graphic as I had anticipated, but then again, I'm probably desensitized to some degree after working in the ER. I knew it was James Caveziel up there with fake blood and special effects. I've seen numerous depictions of the crucifixion before and the most touching, by far, was not presented to me by a Catholic Hollywood star on a big screen, but by the Starkville UMC youth group way back on July 11, 1985. Honestly, Gibson's movie didn't teach me anything I didn't really already know about how Christ died (although there were a few additional details added).

If his movie speaks to those who need to fill that void in their hearts, then I am overjoyed for them. However, for those of us who are Christians, it is not Gibson who we praise and worship and follow. I don't ask Billy Graham or Amy Grant or Lisa Whelchel or Mel Gibson or my priest who I should vote for, nor do I ask Patty Duke or Olivia Newton-John or Tom Hanks who I should vote for.

I would hate to think that someone would change their vote based on the views of a Hollywood celebrity. :roll:

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:29 pm
by timNms
Duck, you say it so well! I've never been influenced by what some celebrity says they're going to do. I have a mind of my own. :)
I also agree with what you said about the movie.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:13 pm
by rainstorm
wait till you see the whole interveiw

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:14 pm
by GalvestonDuck
rainstorm wrote:wait till you see the whole interveiw


Still won't change my mind.

Mel Gibson: I'm having doubts...

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:09 pm
by sunnyday
Duck, you and Tim are the only 2 people I've heard react to the movie as you have. Everyone else I've spoken to is overwhelmed with emotion. It's interesting how things affect us all, isn't it? As for Mel Gibson, he has every right to state his opinion on Bush or anyone else, just as we all have. I think Americans tend to put too much emphasis on celebrities; they are just people who put their pants on one leg at a time. They simply have more money than most of us.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:29 pm
by GalvestonDuck
Well, like I said, the movie was good, but I knew the story already. And it touched me the most when I heard and saw it with the song "Just As I Am" in the background. It drove the story home...to my heart. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:42 pm
by southerngale
GalvestonDuck wrote:
jason0509 wrote:I think that Pres. Bush is in a great deal of political trouble. This only serves to solidfy that view.

What are your thoughts?


As far as I'm concerned, I don't think W is in any more trouble today than he was yesterday or the day before that or three weeks before "The Passion Of The Christ" opened.

Okay, so he's also a Catholic and conservative like me. But Mel Gibson does not vote in my place. I go to the polls on my own and vote how I wish to vote. I do not follow what he says to do or say (I may agree and do likewise on some things, but not because he says so).

And so he made a powerful movie about the crucifixion? It wasn't the first and it won't be the last. I saw it this weekend. Four words -- good, but not original. It was not as graphic as I had anticipated, but then again, I'm probably desensitized to some degree after working in the ER. I knew it was James Caveziel up there with fake blood and special effects. I've seen numerous depictions of the crucifixion before and the most touching, by far, was not presented to me by a Catholic Hollywood star on a big screen, but by the Starkville UMC youth group way back on July 11, 1985. Honestly, Gibson's movie didn't teach me anything I didn't really already know about how Christ died (although there were a few additional details added).

If his movie speaks to those who need to fill that void in their hearts, then I am overjoyed for them. However, for those of us who are Christians, it is not Gibson who we praise and worship and follow. I don't ask Billy Graham or Amy Grant or Lisa Whelchel or Mel Gibson or my priest who I should vote for, nor do I ask Patty Duke or Olivia Newton-John or Tom Hanks who I should vote for.

I would hate to think that someone would change their vote based on the views of a Hollywood celebrity. :roll:


I agree with everything here except the part about the movie. It touched me differently than you. I knew the story too but was overwhelmed with emotion watching it in this way. I did find it very graphic and had to turn away at times. (note: I don't work in ER & cringe at anything worse than a paper cut. lol)

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:48 pm
by GalvestonDuck
Well, it's not like I sat there all cold-hearted and stuff. :) I did cry, especially during the scenes with Jesus and Mary.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:25 pm
by timNms
I didn't mean to imply that I was not touched by the movie. The beatings were horrible. To think that the scenes in the movie probably only scratched the surface of what Jesus really went through....
I had to turn away at times too. I just didn't like the way things were added to the movie. Guess I'm from the old school of thought...if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. :)