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Bush's Mistakes in Iraq keep Piling up!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:04 am
by Guest
ANOTHER Bush mistake

First Mr Boortz mindless assertions aside we are NOT winning Iraq.
The "civil war detractors " that the Boortz talks about happens to be the CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY...

that is the CIA for the the right wing clowns out there...
The CIA is NOT part of the Kerry campaign.

The number of serious mistakes the Bushies are making in Post war Iraq-- it is posr war iraq right? -- is growing.

Besides 13 marines dead in last 24 hrs (Most of them as the Militia attacked in Humans waves of over 350 strong) perhaps the president was premature in saying combat ops were over?

The June 30 deadline. This is PURE politics. WHY June 30? The 1st scheduled Iraqi election wont be until Jan 2005.

How did the WH come up with that date?

do you think Iraq is stable enough for Juine 30s to occur?

The lack of enough troops. The Pentagon was counting on 200 000 Iraqi Police and security to help in the Interim period from June 30 to jan 2005. The Police there are running and fleeing.

Over reliance of the Iraqi police force.

why did the US army Back off and out of Fallujah in FEB and March? That order came front the white house

Look we have the firepower to win this easy but for political reason the Bushies are Not going to do what is right and needed. In THAT reagrd this does bear some resembance to Vietnam.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:13 am
by GalvestonDuck

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:25 am
by Lindaloo
I do not think Boortz is "mindless" as you put it. And it is so easy to sit back and pass judgement on everything that goes on in Iraq. When in fact, there are more good than bad things going on over there but we never hear about it from the liberal biased news media or from people such as yourself.

The attacks against our military is nothing but a bunch of cowards who are trying to hold on to something that does not want them anymore.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:29 am
by Stephanie
Thanks for the link Duck!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:39 am
by GalvestonDuck
You're welcome. :)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:55 am
by Stephanie
Reading that story made me feel happy for the young soldier. He was obviously proud of the work that he has been doing as he should be. :D

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:56 am
by Lindaloo
I agree 100% Steph!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:18 am
by rainstorm
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN IRAQ

There is intense fighting in several areas across Iraq. Some US Marines say that the fighting is more intense than any they faced last year prior to the fall of Saddam Hussein. Islamic radicals have seized control of at least one city and of a couple of bridges over the Euphrates River.

What's going on? Is this that civil war the detractors have been warning us about?

You could say that there are two new fronts in Iraq. As many as 12 U.S. Marines were killed yesterday in intense fighting in the western Iraqi town of Ar-Ramadi. Coalition officials say the attack was mounted by remnants of Saddam's ousted Baath Party. The insurgents took heavy casualties. This is on top of what happened last week in Fallujah, where four civilian security guards were killed and mutilated.

We also have the insurgency being led by a chubby little radical Islamic Cleric named Muqtada al-Sadr. al-Sadr is the son of an Islamic Ayatollah who was murdered by Saddam Hussein. You would think he would be appreciative of the efforts of the coalition. Not so. al-Sadr isn't quite old enough to have earned respect as an Islamic leader ... so he is determined to claim that position through rhetoric and violence. It was his newspaper that was shut down by coalition forces two weeks ago ... shut down because it was calling for the murder of American civilians and soldiers wherever they could be found.

So al-Sadr has decided that now is the time for him to send his militia out to drive the Americans from Iraq. At the present time, al-Sadr is said to be barricaded in his offices in Najaf. He is surrounded by armed supporters. Isn't it a good thing when these radicals gather together in one place? Are these "supporters," really members of Sadr's private army, not vulnerable to a few well placed laser-guided bombs?

If the coalition shows some guts ... and every indication is that it will .. al-Sadr and his militia will be pretty much history in a few days, as will the remnants of the Baathist regime currently making its last stand.

The radical elements in Iran are afraid. They're there ... and they know much better than most Americans that the war in Iraq has been an incredible success. Most of the country is at peace. People are going about their business, living in freedom for the first time. There is more electricity and clean water than there was before the war. More children are going to school. Businesses are opening left and right. There is more health care available to the average Iraqi than there was under Saddam.

A recent poll shows that Iraqis are overwhelmingly glad Saddam is gone. Oxford Research International reports that that the three most-admired Iraqi officials are all members of the Iraqi Governing Council. This surely is bad news to the Baathist losers and al-Sadr. In fact, only one percent of Iraqis say that al-Sadr is the Iraqi leader they most trust.

Seventy-eight percent of Iraqis say that attacks on coalition forces are not acceptable. And 56% of Iraqis say that their lives are better now then they were under Saddam.

Now this may not get reported in the States. After all, it isn't exactly good news for Democrats. But you can bet those who want to disrupt coalition plans and seize control of Iraq for one faction or another know the numbers. They're getting desperate. They know that power is scheduled to be handed over to the Iraqi governing council on June 30th, and they don't like that one bit. The Islamic terrorists want all the power to rule as they see fit, and they aren't the list bit interested in the freedom of speech and freedom of religion guaranteed in the new Iraqi Constitution. They hate democratic processes. They want it their way, and we're not letting them have it.

Cut and run? Pull our troops out now? Sure ... that would be a wonderful idea, if, that is, you want the entire Middle East to descend into chaos. America cannot be safe from Islamic terrorism if it does not see this through.

Some people hate me saying this ... but this is World War IV, my friends. Fight it over there now, or fight it here later.

AND THIS JUST IN

American Marines are now in Fallujah ... collecting the garbage, so to speak, after last week's attack on four American civilian contractors. One reporter says that this is a rout for the Marines. We're told that the bodies of Iraqi insurgents are being stacked like cordwood. Good. Let them stay there and rot. A reminder of what will happen to those who test American resolve.
http://www.boortz.com

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:21 am
by j
My future son-in-law comes home in 4-9 days....he ALSO is a proud soldier...proud of what he and his life protecting, oppression freeing, soldiers in arms, have accomplished so far.

We are proud of him. Perhaps all those that think Bush's mistakes are piling up...that the war is wrong...that body bags are piling up for NOTHING...would like to compose a letter which I can deliver to him when he arrives home. In that letter...make sure you are specific about why you feel his time over there (more than a year) was a complete waste of time.

Oh...and be brave..include your name and address.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:23 am
by rainstorm
this is good news, not bad. the liberal media wants us to lose. the terrorists in the middle east want us to fail. why? they have no future in a free society.
if they are attacking in human waves, great, mow em down.
this is exactly why the 30 june date must be kept.
it is a day of dread for all terrorists.
the iraqis there want freedom, and thank god george bush will not back down. the terrorists cant win. if we back down to a few militants funded by iran and syria, then we have lost.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:31 am
by mf_dolphin
As June 30th approaches, the different factions in Iraq are making their plays for power. This isn't unexpected but I see no reason not to go forward with the turn-over. The US isn't pulling out just turning over the country to it's rightful owners. As to parallels with Vietnam, the difference now is that we have a President willing to go the long haul and to take the war to the enemy.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:44 am
by rainstorm
and this is why kerry should never be president. i heard what he said on the radio, and it sounded even worse. if he cant bring himself to unite against the terrorists now, will he ever? the only thing that will keep us from winning, is fighting amonst ourselves.

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...


Wednesday, Apr. 07, 2004 10:41 AM EDT
Kerry: Terrorist Shiite Al-Sadr 'A Legitimate Voice'

In an interview broadcast Wednesday morning, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry defended terrorist Shiite imam Moqtada al-Sadr as a "legitimate voice" in Iraq, despite that fact that he's led an uprising that has killed nearly 20 American GIs in the last two days.

Speaking of al-Sadr's newspaper, which was shut down by coalition forces last week after it urged violence against U.S. troops, Kerry complained to National Public Radio, "They shut a newspaper that belongs to a legitimate voice in Iraq."

In the next breath, however, the White House hopeful caught himself and quickly changed direction, adding, "Well, let me . . . change the term legitimate. It belongs to a voice — because he has clearly taken on a far more radical tone in recent days and aligned himself with both Hamas and Hezbollah, which is a sort of terrorist alignment."

But Kerry again seemed to voice sympathy for the Shiite terrorist when asked whether he supported al Sadr's arrest. "Not if it’s an isolated act without the other kinds of steps necessary to change the dynamics on the ground in Iraq," Kerry told NPR, in quotes first reported by the New York Sun.

"If all we do is make war against the Iraqi people and continue an American occupation, fundamentally, without a clarity as to who and how sovereignty is being turned over, we have a very serious problem for the long run here," Kerry added. "And I think this administration is just walking dead center down into that trap."

On March 28, the U.S.-led coalition authorities closed al-Sadr's newspaper, al-Hawza, for 60 days, the Sun reported. L. Paul Bremer, the chief U.S. administrator in Iraq, charged that said the newspaper had published false stories blaming the coalition forces for local acts of terrorism.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:51 am
by Stephanie
So al-Sadr has decided that now is the time for him to send his militia out to drive the Americans from Iraq. At the present time, al-Sadr is said to be barricaded in his offices in Najaf. He is surrounded by armed supporters. Isn't it a good thing when these radicals gather together in one place? Are these "supporters," really members of Sadr's private army, not vulnerable to a few well placed laser-guided bombs?

If the coalition shows some guts ... and every indication is that it will .. al-Sadr and his militia will be pretty much history in a few days, as will the remnants of the Baathist regime currently making its last stand.


I certainly hope so.

My only comment Marshall on the Vietnam comparison is that we DID go the long haul and we still had to pull out. I just hope we didn't underestimate the the whole situation in Iraq.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:04 pm
by Guest
Mindless Kookism running rampant I see

rainstorm wrote:this is good news, not bad. the liberal media wants us to lose.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:06 pm
by Guest
well perhaps you need a course in how to follow the news?

Boortz claims the there are americans who want a civil war in iraq

Hence the term "Civil war detractors"

This is BS.... the fear of civil war comes from the CIA.

NOT from Kerry. Not form Libral media

The CIA. Do you want me to site you the URL so you can read the CIA report to congrees and the WH on line?


Lindaloo wrote:I do not think Boortz is "mindless" as you put it. And it is so easy to sit back and pass judgement on everything that goes on in Iraq. When in fact, there are more good than bad things going on over there but we never hear about it from the liberal biased news media or from people such as yourself.

The attacks against our military is nothing but a bunch of cowards who are trying to hold on to something that does not want them anymore.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:07 pm
by vbhoutex
DT wrote:Mindless Kookism running rampant I see

rainstorm wrote:this is good news, not bad. the liberal media wants us to lose.


That may be your opinion, it is not everyones!!!

I hope they use the laser guided bombs to full advantage!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:14 pm
by Lindaloo
The CIA? oh yeah, I have great faith in them. Can we say 9/11 and their intelligence failure? Oh, I guess you like Tenet right DT?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:30 pm
by Guest
George Tenet is a CLOSE CLOSE FRIEND OF BUSH.

that means the GW Bush the republican.

Tenet should be FIRED but we all know that even when 3000 dead Americans the Bushies never fire anyone.

To do so would mean there is accountability. That is the last thing the Bushies are.


Lindaloo wrote:The CIA? oh yeah, I have great faith in them. Can we say 9/11 and their intelligence failure? Oh, I guess you like Tenet right DT?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:11 pm
by GalvestonDuck
j wrote:My future son-in-law comes home in 4-9 days....he ALSO is a proud soldier...proud of what he and his life protecting, oppression freeing, soldiers in arms, have accomplished so far.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4667742/

U.S. may delay return of some troops
Rumsfeld also indicated that the Pentagon may delay the scheduled return home of some U.S. troops currently in Iraq in order to buttress U.S. force levels to deal with the current violence.

“We will likely be managing the pace of the redeployments ... to see the current situation through,” he said. There are currently about 135,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.


I pray to God this isn't the case for your son-in-law, J. Is he already out of Iraq and in Germany or somewhere like that getting ready to head back to the states? When I read the article, he was the first one I thought about.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:22 pm
by Lindaloo
DT wrote:George Tenet is a CLOSE CLOSE FRIEND OF BUSH.

that means the GW Bush the republican.

Tenet should be FIRED but we all know that even when 3000 dead Americans the Bushies never fire anyone.

To do so would mean there is accountability. That is the last thing the Bushies are.


Lindaloo wrote:The CIA? oh yeah, I have great faith in them. Can we say 9/11 and their intelligence failure? Oh, I guess you like Tenet right DT?


And he also worked under the Clinton Administration while the 93 WTC bombing, the 98 African Embassy bombing and the 2000 attack on the USS Cole occurred. Care to try that again?