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SADR TO RENOUNCE VIOLENCE? victory for bush?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:01 pm
by rainstorm
just reported on fox that al sadr is negotiating that he will renounce violence if we dont arrest him.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:02 pm
by Derek Ortt
I prefer unconditional surrender

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:03 pm
by Lindaloo
No conditions. PERIOD!

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:04 pm
by chadtm80
Thanks, but no thanks

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:07 pm
by rainstorm
uhh, lets get real. i think what we are seeing here is sadr realizing we wont leave iraq. this is a victory for bush if this really happens. one condition is we should demand the ones who killed the americans be turned over to us.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:08 pm
by chadtm80
It will be a victory when we have his lil azz

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:13 pm
by rainstorm
i disagree. if this actually happens, it would be much better for us and the future iraqi govt for sadr to renounce violence than to make a martyr out of him. once again though, the liberal press has been made fools of.
civil war?
sunnis and shias working together?
iraq in revolt?
the liberal media simply wants us to fail

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:34 pm
by Lindaloo
He should not be able to surrender under his own terms Helen. That is not they way we operate.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:53 pm
by rainstorm
i disagree. i think if we keep fighting till we kill him, then others will fight to the death.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:48 pm
by coriolis
sure, he renounces violence to save his skin, and he lives to fight another day. His offer to negotiate is a sign of weakness. I say finish him off. If it sets off another round of violence, so be it. It will flush out the remaining fighters.

There's no negotiating with these people. They're fanatics.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:11 pm
by Lindaloo
coriolis wrote:sure, he renounces violence to save his skin, and he lives to fight another day. His offer to negotiate is a sign of weakness. I say finish him off. If it sets off another round of violence, so be it. It will flush out the remaining fighters.

There's no negotiating with these people. They're fanatics.


Well said! I agree 100%.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:54 am
by rainstorm
you may be right. this morning it is starting to sound like viet nam, with our soldiers every move being controlled in washington. not a good sign at all.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:09 am
by Stephanie
coriolis wrote:sure, he renounces violence to save his skin, and he lives to fight another day. His offer to negotiate is a sign of weakness. I say finish him off. If it sets off another round of violence, so be it. It will flush out the remaining fighters.

There's no negotiating with these people. They're fanatics.


I agree as well. There's always going to be another group that's going to want to bring us down.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:43 am
by stormchazer
Arrest him first, then let him negotiate!

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:45 am
by j
I will be very dissapointed if we negotiate period!

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:54 am
by GalvestonDuck
Me too.

Heck, didn't Clinton even say one time (after the Kobar Towers attack, I believe), "The US does not negotiate with terrorists?" (Not that he really did anything else about them, but at least he got that part right. :) )

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:07 pm
by streetsoldier
Well, folks, NO negotiations...CENTCOM has again stated that policy is either the capture or death of al Sadr.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:10 pm
by Stephanie
Good!

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:05 pm
by coriolis
Well they're still talking.... A unilateral cease fire on our part at one of the locations. I wonder if some sort of "feel good" exit strategy is forming. It's been done before.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:49 am
by Corona
rainstorm wrote:i disagree. if this actually happens, it would be much better for us and the future iraqi govt for sadr to renounce violence than to make a martyr out of him...


That's right and he picked up on the points Streetsoldier made regarding CENTCOM, so he toned down his rhetoric in response. He would be more easy to handle than the angry fanatics left behind if he was 'taken out' in the final sense. Big hands with kid gloves time now.