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Since Duck hurt my feelings by calling cows UGLY thought i'd

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:53 pm
by timNms
SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT :) (j/k, Duck...but they really aren't ugly)

This post kind of goes with the seal pup post. Didn't want to hijack the thread.

Veal comes from calves that are killed at a young age. Their lives consist of being chained in a small area with just enough slack in the chain for them to lie down or stand. They're taught to drink milk (actually milk replacer that is a soy-type stuff) from a bucket. How do I know this? I rescued two calves from a veal barn. Flossie and Sambo were my first 2 bottle babies. Sambo was a Holstein bull (had to sell him after he got about 2 yrs old 'cause he got to aggressive). Here's a pic of Flossie (my 6 yr old baby) saying "hello": Image

Most of the milk we get from the stores come from Holstein cows. (like Annie and Fannie, who, by the way, are twins. I got them at 3 days old. They turned 5 yrs old in March). There are also other dairy breeds (Jerseys, Gurnseys, Ashyres sp?, milking shorthorns, and some others I can't think of right off hand). A good Holstein cow will give several gallons of milk each day. Dairys measure the milk by the pound but I forget how many pounds are in a gallon of milk. I do know that my Holstein was giving 4 gallons per day with only one milking. She'd probably have doubled that amount had I milked her twice daily like the dairys do. (before you get a comical image in your head of me hand-milking a cow, I have a milking machine :) Put her some grain in the trough, lead her in the barn, hook her up and it's done in about 10 mins compared to 2 or 3 hrs of trying to hand milk LOL) NO, we don't use the milk. I gave it to my neighbors for their dogs until I bought two calves to bottle feed.
The milker doing it's job on Annie: (Don't panic. That's NOT poop on her hoof. It's teat sanitizer that dripped onto her foot :) )
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And Annie's twin sister, Fannie:
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Most of the beef we see in the grocers comes from beef cattle (angus, brangus, semmintal sp?, brahmen, etc.). Flossie is a "beef cow". Occasionally, after a dairy cow has reached a point at which she is no longer a profit for the dairyman to keep, she goes to the sale barn. From there she sometimes gets lucky and is purchased to be used as a nurse cow (given the job of raising 2 or 3 calves at a time) or perhaps a family milk cow. More often than not, she is used for beef.

You can see my crew, including Annie's face here: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/anniesplace/ . Since making the webpage, I've sold a few and lost a couple. I've added 2 new "boys" but haven't gotten their pics up yet.

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:07 am
by Josephine96
Thank you for the cow explanation Tim :wink:

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:29 am
by GalvestonDuck
The most udderly informative cow post ever written. :)

BTW, I eat beef, but not veal. :)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:38 am
by timNms
Duck, I bought the two bull calves in Jan with the intention of raising one of them for beef....wellllllll....that idea went out the window after I bottle fed them for a couple of days LOL. Guess I'll sell one of them in about 4 more months...only prob there is "which one do I sell"? LOL

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:04 am
by Amanzi
I love moo moo's, especially there big shiney noses, I love to play with moo noses. If I cant find a moos nose I will settle for a shiny slobbery dog nose or even the cats nose when its cold.

I have to not think about what im eating when I sink my teeth into a steak.. It has become mind over matter!

Flossie has a wonderful shiney nose, and is a rather sweet looking little moo :)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:05 am
by bfez1
"MOO",
I have several family members that work for a dairy.
"GOT MILK"

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:19 am
by GalvestonDuck
Amanzi wrote:I love moo moo's, especially there big shiney noses, I love to play with moo noses. If I cant find a moos nose I will settle for a shiny slobbery dog nose or even the cats nose when its cold.


ROFLMBO! I can't decide whether to be amused or disturbed by this, Bron! It sounds like a nose fetish. :lol:

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:22 am
by stormraiser
A cow nose fetish at that :D

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:34 am
by timNms
Amanzi wrote:I love moo moo's, especially there big shiney noses, I love to play with moo noses. If I cant find a moos nose I will settle for a shiny slobbery dog nose or even the cats nose when its cold.

I have to not think about what im eating when I sink my teeth into a steak.. It has become mind over matter!

Flossie has a wonderful shiney nose, and is a rather sweet looking little moo :)


I have to not think about what I'm eating too.

You'd love Annie. You can say "Annie, give me a kiss" and she'll stick her nose to your face or hand or whatever you have close to her LOL.

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:35 am
by timNms
bfez1 wrote:"MOO",
I have several family members that work for a dairy.
"GOT MILK"


Are the dairies in LA struggling as bad as the ones in MS? Several dairies have gone belly up.

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:00 am
by bfez1
timNms wrote:
bfez1 wrote:"MOO",
I have several family members that work for a dairy.
"GOT MILK"


Are the dairies in LA struggling as bad as the ones in MS? Several dairies have gone belly up.


Yes they are. The low carb craze is really affecting the market.

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:03 am
by GalvestonDuck
timNms wrote: Several dairies have gone belly up.


Can you milk them that way? :wink:

(Couldn't resist. :) )

Why are they struggling? (Edit -- Bonnie just answered that.) I LOVE milk...always have. Sometimes I prefer a big tall ice cold glass of milk over water when I come inside on a hot day.

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:46 pm
by timNms
GalvestonDuck wrote:
Can you milk them that way? :wink:

(Couldn't resist. :) )



ROFL Never tried that, Duck!

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:31 pm
by Anonymous
I always thought Veal came from Lamb. And I asked my gf what she thought veal is and she said lamb as well. So what is lamb meat called? Are we the only ones who thought this??

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:35 pm
by mf_dolphin
lamb ;-)

veal is baby moo moo :-)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:38 pm
by Rainband
I won't eat veal :cry: I was having my car repaired one time, there was a church next door, they had a baby cow for the nativity play. It was so cute. I won't eat veal anymore :oops:

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:47 pm
by stormraiser
Wow, Breeze. I like goats so much. I wish I could have a small herd of milk goats and walk them to the back hill like a shepherd and sit and play my accordion all day in the sun and just relax, me and my flock. (Someone slap me back to reality, quick :) )

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:50 pm
by stormraiser
Uh, I don't know how that happened, but I read Breeze's post, typed mine in and it appeared before hers. I know I am not clairvoyent. :eek:

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:51 pm
by stormraiser
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:04 pm
by breeze
LOL, timNms - your post reminds me of a
Christmas card that my brother sent, a few years
back, with all the pics of his goats, and, their
names. Of course, the last pic was a scream -
he'd grown a beard and was starting to LOOK
like the goats! :lol: My Mom got a little bit
worried about that...;)

No milk for me - I protested having to drink it,
growing up, and still only use it for cooking.

But, a steak on the grill? Yeeeaaahhh........!