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Is the Kidnapped/Missing US Marine a Hoax???

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:56 am
by wx247
Saw that this morning on the local news. I found this article from MSNBC on the same thing. Interesting...

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5387977

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:32 am
by Guest
Interesting indeed. I'm curious to see how this plays out.
...Jennifer...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:36 am
by Brent
It's starting to sound like a hoax. The thing that really annoys me is all these claims by the family that he is safe but yet the military can't confirm it. All the other prisoners taken hostage we knew almost immediately if they had been released/escaped or were killed. There wasn't much uncertainty.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:39 am
by Kiko
Spy vs. Spy scenario? 'Embed' was a term that occured to me a while back.

It still looks like a case of desertion to me with the media doing what it can to muddy the waters.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:40 am
by Lindaloo
I did not buy that "I promise to not be a marine anymore" theory either. This guy is AWOL!!

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:45 am
by chadtm80
I have to agree Linda.. Something has stunk about this whole thing since the begaining.. These Guys dont give two Number 2's about one guy agreeing to leave our forces.. That would NOT of saved his life imo.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:32 am
by bfez1
Hmmm, I think I smell a rat!!!

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:24 pm
by GalvestonDuck
Unless I haven't seen all the images (which I'm sure I haven't), here's what I'm confused about:

1) On the image of him while in "captivity," he was still in his BDU's. Haven't all the others that we've seen been in a prisoner's orange jumpsuit.

2) One of his captors had his hand on his shoulder in almost a reassuring manner. Never seen that before, have we?

3) The captors in the background were never shown. All the others showed the men in hoods with rifles and/or knives.

4) He was blindfolded. I don't recall any of the others being blindfolded during the initial videotaped messages where they gave their names and where they were from and so forth. Only in a few of the actual execution scenes were they blindfolded.

Oops...I was gonna say:
5) There was no flag or banner in the background. But now I see there is.

According to what I've read, a still image was shown on Al-Jazeera and nothing else. No video, no speech, no rants from the captors.

Total hoax, IMO.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:52 pm
by Lindaloo
Good points Duckie!

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:36 pm
by streetsoldier
Well, this Marine is now sitting in the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon; Mansoor Ijaz (FoxNews Middle East contributor) says that he couldn't have made the trip w/o the asistance of Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed terror group.

More, Hassoun's family in Lebanon was in a shoot-out with another family who called them "U.S. agents" earlier today.

He is being interrogated as we speak...it will be VERY interesting to find out what he has to say about all this. :?:

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:55 pm
by janswizard
Sorry about the thread drifting I'm about to do here but did anyone catch the video of the Filipino gent that was recently kidnapped? If I didn't know better, I would think he had a SMILE on his face, or a smirk at the least. And here I am thinking if I was in his position I would be completely terrified.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:05 pm
by GalvestonDuck
Kind of hard to tell about his expression in this still photo:
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But, like I said -- orange jumpsuit, hooded punks with weapons, banner in the background, non-blindfolded hostage. and no one is touching him.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:47 pm
by Rainband
Dont ask me why :oops: but the way those guys are carrying themselves. They don't look foriegn..I know that makes no sense but it's the feeling I get :eek:

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:23 pm
by vbhoutex
Rainband wrote:Dont ask me why :oops: but the way those guys are carrying themselves. They don't look foriegn..I know that makes no sense but it's the feeling I get :eek:


I have to agree with you on that Johnathan. No "swagger" look or anything like that, just a posed picture. HHHHHMMMMM????????

And I do think it will be very interesting to see what comes out of this interrogation!!! I think it has been a hoax since day one. Great points to ponder Duckie!!