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Are these dogs real or fake?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:22 am
by TexasStooge
Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Courtesy of Yahoo! News/Reuters

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A pet groomer trims the dyed fur of a poodle at a pet grooming parlor in Chongqing, southwestern China, July 30, 2004. Pet grooming, including haircut and coloring, starts at 300 yuan (about $36) for small dogs. REUTERS/Issei Kato

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:05 pm
by Miss Mary
Stooge - I just saw these pics on Yahoo. Even sent Lindaloo a link, since it made me so sad!

This is just flat-out wrong!

Poor dogs....

Mary

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:12 pm
by TexasStooge
Miss Mary wrote:Stooge - I just saw these pics on Yahoo. Even sent Lindaloo a link, since it made me so sad!

This is just flat-out wrong!

Poor dogs....

Mary

If my mom caught me doing that to her pets, she would kill me.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:14 pm
by Miss Mary
I cringe when I see a poodle that is groomed like this, w/o the dye job. When I see a poodle that isn't groomed, I just want to hug that owner! I've never been a fan of poodles but they're cute enough. I've gravitated towards big dogs now, since we have a Golden.

This picture is over the top IMHO, it's animal abuse in a mild form. I just hope the dye is safe for these dogs. Stay tuned huh?

Stooge - glad to hear you wouldn't do anything like this!

Mary

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:37 pm
by Lindaloo
I agree Miss Mary. This is flat out wrong. :grr:

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:06 am
by CajunMama
MissMary, i own a poodle and you have to get them groomed. A poodle has has actual hair and not fur. They do not shed and even if you brush them everyday their hair gets hard to brush if it's real thick. And if you don't brush them, the hair gets all matted. Now the dye job? I think that's cruel.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:21 am
by streetsoldier
Annabelle (she be a ho') gets a "puppy cut" when we can afford it; nothing fancy except the "poof" on her "ain't no tail" and a little extra fur on her little head...her ears are straightened out, "wings" in the breeze, but absoluetely not any "froggie"-cutting at all.

And she DOES get brushed several times a day...it's necessary with this breed.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:16 am
by abajan
CajunMama wrote:MissMary, i own a poodle and you have to get them groomed. A poodle has has actual hair and not fur. They do not shed and even if you brush them everyday their hair gets hard to brush if it's real thick. And if you don't brush them, the hair gets all matted. Now the dye job? I think that's cruel.


What's cruel about the dye job? Dogs can't see colour, so the change won't be as dramatic to them as us.

Unless the dye is harmful (poisonous) or has an odor, what's the big deal? I would agree that it's an unnecessary and silly thing to do but cruel? hardly.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:13 am
by Miss Mary
cajun - trimming a poodle to keep mats down is okay. What I guess I don't like to see is are the balls of fur on legs/feet and tail. Since you are a poodle owner, is this common? To shave the fur so short on many areas but leaving balls of fur other areas (much the same way shrubs can be groomed). Just wondering.....I'm all for grooming dogs and cats if it's in the best interests of keeping the fur unmatted.

Abajan - it is cruel to dye a pet's fur. I'm with cajun on this one. These dogs are not easter eggs!

Mary

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:46 am
by CajunMama
The poodle was originally used to retrieve ducks or geese. Way back, even possibly as early as 1300, just the back half of the dog was shaved so the dogs coat wouldn't weigh him down in the water. Those 2 balls of hair were left on the hind legs to provide some insulation against the cold water. And the ball on the tail...it let the dogs owner know where the dog was in the water.

So all those men who laugh at the way a poodle is clipped....hee hee! men are the ones who originally clipped the dog like that!

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:30 pm
by abajan
Miss Mary wrote:...Abajan - it is cruel to dye a pet's fur. I'm with cajun on this one. These dogs are not easter eggs!

Mary


Okay, if it doesn't physically harm the dog, exactly how is it cruel? Does the dog suffer embarassment? Please explain - I'm all ears.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:34 pm
by CajunMama
Yes, a dog does get embarressed. My poodle is very perceptive to voice levels. When he comes home from the groomers either one of my kids or their friends will call him "Sissy Dog" and he runs and hides. I'll tell him how handsome he is and he just preens and prances around like he's one hot little poodle!

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:03 pm
by streetsoldier
Kathy, there are tapestries once owned by the Duc de Berry (1369, France) that show full-size poodles used to run down red deer in a hunt...yes, they are clipped back, but their build and fur is unmistakable.

Besides, their ability to hunt by smell or sight is near-legendary...ask Annabelle, who has "the nose that knows".

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:30 pm
by abajan
CajunMama wrote:Yes, a dog does get embarressed. My poodle is very perceptive to voice levels. When he comes home from the groomers either one of my kids or their friends will call him "Sissy Dog" and he runs and hides. I'll tell him how handsome he is and he just preens and prances around like he's one hot little poodle!


He's probably reacting more to the actions than the words.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:41 pm
by coriolis
I never thought of dogs getting embarassed. I've never seen that response in our dogs.

Is it true that bulldogs can't breed naturally? Now that's something to be embarrassed about.