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FDA Orders Strong Antidepressant Warnings

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:01 pm
by yoda
And I may soon be put on one of these, most likely Prozac... :eek: :eek:


WASHINGTON (AP) - All antidepressants must carry a ``black box'' warning, the government's strongest safety alert, linking the drugs to increased suicidal thoughts and behavior among children and teens taking them, the Food and Drug Administration said Friday.

Because the warnings are primarily seen by doctors, the agency also is creating a medication guide for patients to advise them of the risk.

Dr. Lester Crawford, acting FDA commissioner, said the agency sought to balance the increased risk of suicidal thoughts and behavior against the known benefit of treating depression in children.

``We continue to believe, however, that these drugs provide significant benefits for pediatric patients when used appropriately,'' he said at a news conference.


He said the new labels warn of the ``risk of suicidality and encourages prescribers to balance this risk with clinical need.''


Prozac is the only antidepressant approved for use in children.


On average, 2 percent to 3 percent of children taking antidepressants have increased suicidal thoughts, independent experts, working with Columbia University, found.


The FDA announcement follows to the letter guidance from federal advisers. After searing and emotional public hearings one month ago, the advisers urged the agency to add its most strident warnings to the drugs.


The FDA said in a statement that it recognizes that depression in pediatric patients ``can have significant consequences in pediatric patients if not appropriately treated. The new warning language recognizes this need but advises close monitoring of patients as a way of managing the risk of suicidality.''


An information guide will be distributed with each antidepressant prescription. Parents will be advised to look for warning signs in children that include worsening depression, agitation, irritability, and unusual changes in behavior. Those worrisome signs could come within the first months of starting an antidepressant or when the drug's doses changes - higher or lower.


To make sure the medication guide is available with each prescription or refill, Crawford said the FDA would work with manufacturers to develop ``unit of sale'' packaging for all antidepressants. In ``unit of sale'' packaging, a medication is distributed in its original container and pre-labeled by the manufacturer. It contains sufficient medication for one normal course of therapy.


In 24 trials involving more than 4,400 patients taking antidepressants, researchers found a greater risk of increased suicidal thoughts and behavior during the first few months of treatment.


Celexa, Prozac and Zoloft posed lower risks for children, researchers found, while Luvox, Effexor and Paxil had higher risks of increased suicidal thoughts and behavior.


Prozac is the only antidepressant approved by the FDA for use for treating depression in pediatric patients.


Anafranil, Prozac, Luvox and Zoloft have been used for treating obsessive compulsive disorder in pediatric patients.


The new warnings, however, will be carried by all antidepressants, including Anafranil, Aventyl, Celexa, Cymbalta, Desyrel, Effexor, Elavil, Lexapro, , Ludiomil, Luvox, Marplan, Nardil, Norpramin, Pamelor, Parnate, Paxil, Pexeva, Prozac, Remeron, Sarafem, Serzone, Sinequan, Surmontil, Symbyax,Tofranil, Tofranil-PM, Triavil, Vivactil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft and Zyban.


The agency's action comes at a time when it faces withering criticism for not acting sooner on antidepressants, and for the shortage of flu vaccine and the high-profile withdrawal of Vioxx for safety concerns.


Congressional investigations have focused on allegations the agency silenced its own employees who tried to raise safety concerns on the antidepressants and Vioxx.


http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/story. ... tm&sc=1500

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:08 pm
by tronbunny
I suspect that it's not the anti depressant causing this...
It's the condition, in general.
Anyone being treated for depression needs monitoring.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:20 pm
by Stephanie
tronbunny wrote:I suspect that it's not the anti depressant causing this...
It's the condition, in general.
Anyone being treated for depression needs monitoring.


I agree. From my own experience, when I was first prescribed Prozac I know I was suicidal then. I had gotten off of Prozac back in 1989 to try and get pregnant (at that time it wasn't known if it was "safe" to be on Prozac and be pregnant), I fell into a deeper depression. I went back onto Prozac and about a week later was admitted to a hospital for being suicidal. I think, IMHO, that since it takes about a good two weeks for it to build up in your system, that I was still severely depressed and the drug hadn't had enough time to work on me. I was being closely monitored - actually, it was my doctor that escorted me and admitted me to the hospital.

I won't say that it is totally impossible that these drugs could perhaps "enhance" thought suicidal tendencies. Also, depression and anti-depressants are probably different for children than they are for adults.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:28 pm
by yoda
Well that is scary Stephanie. :eek: :eek: :eek:

All I know is that I MAY go on Prozac.. to help combat my depression and suicidal tendencies... whether it works or not I don't/won't know... hopefully I don't have to go to the hospital... :eek: :eek: :eek:

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:33 pm
by Stephanie
yoda - Prozac has SAVED MY LIFE. I will never go off of it again. :wink:

However, you may have to try a few to find the one that is right for you. I had started off with Pamelor, but that gave me anxiety attacks. It helped the depression, but not as much as Prozac. It made me feel like a totally new person.

Good luck!

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:43 pm
by sunupgal
I don't think any pill is the cure to everyone. All need to be monitored. I know that I started taking Zocor for cholesteral (imagine that...37, 110 lbs, watch my diet, exercise.....who would've known the genes would get me!) I took it for 2 weeks and couldn't sleep, had weird dreams, was moody. You have to monitor how your feeling no matter what your taking. The problem with kids, especially adolesence, is that they aren't always forthcoming or understand what is going on with how they are feeling. I feel the "black box" is good to make parents really open up a dialogue if their kids are on the medicine.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:46 pm
by yoda
Stephanie wrote:yoda - Prozac has SAVED MY LIFE. I will never go off of it again. :wink:

However, you may have to try a few to find the one that is right for you. I had started off with Pamelor, but that gave me anxiety attacks. It helped the depression, but not as much as Prozac. It made me feel like a totally new person.

Good luck!


Thanks Stephanie... we will se what the pysch thinks soon... and what medication(s) I get put on...

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:12 pm
by Wnghs2007
Again yoda, buddy, I am here for ya when ya need me. you have my aim address so I am here. :D

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:13 pm
by yoda
Wnghs2007 wrote:Again yoda, buddy, I am here for ya when ya need me. you have my aim address so I am here. :D


I know... and I know I can lean on some of the people on the board for help as well...

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:16 pm
by Wnghs2007
yoda wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:Again yoda, buddy, I am here for ya when ya need me. you have my aim address so I am here. :D


I know... and I know I can lean on some of the people on the board for help as well...



As the song says, "Lean on me"...Ill keep you strong. :D

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:20 pm
by yoda
Wnghs2007 wrote:
yoda wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:Again yoda, buddy, I am here for ya when ya need me. you have my aim address so I am here. :D


I know... and I know I can lean on some of the people on the board for help as well...



As the song says, "Lean on me"...Ill keep you strong. :D


What song is that from? Never heard of it...

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:21 pm
by Wnghs2007
yoda wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:
yoda wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:Again yoda, buddy, I am here for ya when ya need me. you have my aim address so I am here. :D


I know... and I know I can lean on some of the people on the board for help as well...



As the song says, "Lean on me"...Ill keep you strong. :D


What song is that from? Never heard of it...



Lean on Me
~ Bill Withers

Sometimes in our lives we all have pain
We all have sorrow
But if we are wise
We always know that there's tomorrow

Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend
I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on

Please swallow your pride
If I have things you need to borrow
For no one can fill those of your needs
That you don't let show

Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend
I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on

If there is a load you have to bear
That you can't carry
I'm right up the road
I'll share your load
If you just call me

So just call on me brother, when you need a hand
We all need somebody to make it
I just might have a problem that you'd understand
We all need somebody to make it

Lean on me when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend
I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
Till I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on

Lean on me...

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:27 pm
by yoda
Ah ok.. Thanks KC.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:34 pm
by Wnghs2007
yoda wrote:Ah ok.. Thanks KC.



Your Welcome! :D

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:56 am
by yoda
Bump.. for all those who did not see... this is important for some people on here...

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:23 am
by GalvestonDuck
I think some of it may have to do with the way the drugs alter the brain's chemistry, in addition to the disease itself, when the drug is not taken on a regular basis or in inappropriate doses. I mean, when someone takes it as prescribed and gets their emotions balanced, usually there's not a problem, is there? I haven't really read enough about cases where a child or teen who is on one of the medicines commits suicide (nor do I really want to have to). But haven't we heard a handful of stories of people who were on antidepressants, but didn't take them regularly, and ended up having a severely violent episode? I thought that was the case with both Andrea Yates (not a teen) and Columbine killers Klebold and Harris. Gonna have to check that, but I think I remember that being mentioned.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:51 am
by Wnghs2007
GalvestonDuck wrote:I think some of it may have to do with the way the drugs alter the brain's chemistry, in addition to the disease itself, when the drug is not taken on a regular basis or in inappropriate doses. I mean, when someone takes it as prescribed and gets their emotions balanced, usually there's not a problem, is there? I haven't really read enough about cases where a child or teen who is on one of the medicines commits suicide (nor do I really want to have to). But haven't we heard a handful of stories of people who were on antidepressants, but didn't take them regularly, and ended up having a severely violent episode? I thought that was the case with both Andrea Yates (not a teen) and Columbine killers Klebold and Harris. Gonna have to check that, but I think I remember that being mentioned.



Yes GalvestonDuck I do believe that was the case. But I cant remember either.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:39 pm
by Stephanie
I've heard stories about that Duck. People take medication, feel better and then feel that they can get off of the medication. It is SO IMPORTANT to keep in contact with your doctor and do as he/she says!

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:13 pm
by tronbunny
Don't just think the drug is the miracle.
There's more to depression than just brain chemistry.
Stay with your Dr. and stay with your friends and loved ones who need it.

Yoda.. anytime, dude.
Been there, done that and I'm recovering well.
Do what works, and stay connected to everything that makes you happy!