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Do you remember Hanoi Jane??

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 10:29 am
by GulfBreezer
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do
not remember this, and
didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers,
mothers, and older brothers
and sisters had to bear:
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women
of the Century."
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of
our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the
Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by
the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5
years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a
couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as
part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 1:39 pm
by Lindaloo
I am sure that once this hits the media outlets that she will be pulled from being honored, or at least I hope so anyway. I just emailed FoxNews about it. Hopefully they will pick up the story!!

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 1:41 pm
by chadtm80
70's?? Whats that?? hehe

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 1:56 pm
by j
truth and fiction to the story. But first..I offer my opinion of Jane Fonda. Liked that movie Barbarella. Can't think of anything else good to say about her. She is kind of a 70's version of Natalie Maines

check this link for the truth AND fiction on JF:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/hanoijane.htm

Quick edit..If you saw Hannity and Colmes last night , then you saw a true Traitor in action. A long haired maggot infested, bloodsucking Liberal Lawyer who had Sean, and even Alan ready to ring his neck for his anti-American comments last night. He all but compared Bush to Hitler and firmly believes he should be tried for War Crimes. His premise.....we knowingly bombed civilian locations and Bush is nothing more than baby killer. (I don't get it....in this Country...that is legal anyway..so I couldn't understand his point).

But anyway...if you saw it..even if you are a Liberal, I'm sure you came away totally disgusted by this "man".

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 2:54 pm
by Lindaloo
You forgot to mention he has defended "Hamas" people who were arrested. In other words... he defends terrorists. :grr:

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:02 pm
by streetsoldier
OH, yeah, I saw that guy...Stanley Cohen?

I notice that the angrier left-wingers are jumping the Iraqi civilian casualties beyond absurdity; I think Mr. Cohen put the count as 1,500,000 (mostly women, children and the elderly, of course)? And he isn't the only one; I heard the same figure spouted by an equally raging clown about a week ago.

In contrast, Saudi Arabia gives the total, military and civilian, at about 8,000 Iraqis KIA, which is consistent with coalition reports.

Yet....where are these people when documentation of vast numbers of Iraqis having been tortured, raped, and murdered by Saddam, Inc. is released (and we're just in the beginning stages of this)? If they seek a cause to champion, THERE'S the "beef".

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:10 pm
by j
exactly SS...when Sean tried to interject that very point (Iraqi's tortured, raped, murdered...) all this guy could say was.."I know he's a bad man"..blah blah blah...Didn't you just want to reach into the tube and wring his neck?

Linda...right on top of things as usual....Yes...the scum defended "Hamas" people, a matter of record..he admits to it....I don't know why Fox News didn't just call the FBI and have him arrested for aiding and abetting Terrorists??? Hmmmmm?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:34 pm
by streetsoldier
In addition, I find it very difficult to equate Natalie Maines' "single sentence mouth-off" with Hanoi Jane's demonstrated "aid and comfort to the enemy" stance; in addition to her "interviews" with our POWs (along with members of the American Friends Service Committee), she also gave the North Vietnamese a "photo-op" by posing in the seat of an anti-aircraft battery defending Hanoi, and continued her "social-consciousness" activism at home for some time afterwards.

Why she was not immediately arrested upon her return to these shores is still an outrage...far and above anything the "Ditzy Chix" have done, to be sure.

Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:47 pm
by Lindaloo
Maybe that will happen j. (About the FBI arresting this idiot). Remember that Professor that Bill O'Reilly help nab? Same possible scenerio here as well.

Bill.... like I said, I sure hope the media starts their usual "destroy me" tactics against Jane Fonda before she is honored.