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Father disciplines son in a bad manner

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:22 pm
by cycloneye
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0126051stun1.html

JANUARY 27--Meet Douglas Dycus. The 40-year-old Florida man was charged yesterday with felony child abuse and domestic battery for allegedly using a stun gun to discipline his 14-year-old son. Dycus, an engineer with a Palm Beach firm, admitted to cops that he used the electrical device on the boy when the child was wrestling with a brother and holding up the family's departure from their home last month. Instead of pulling the boys apart, Dycus--who said the children were "not listening"--went to his dresser drawer and pulled out the stun gun, which he used to zap his son on the arm. The child let out a scream and then "got into the vehicle," according to a Martin County Sheriff's Office report. The victim told a child welfare investigator that Dycus shocked him twice, pointing to marks the device left on his arm and abdomen. The stun gun was recovered from Dycus's Palm City home after sheriff's investigators filed the below search warrant affidavit.

Oh boy what a father.At link above is the search warrant affidavit of investigators.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:23 pm
by alicia-w
yep, definitely child abuse. anything that leaves marks is considered abuse in this state.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:26 pm
by sunny
OMG - I wonder how he would feel if a stun gun were used on him.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:33 pm
by kevin
Cattle prod for this great dad!! :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:33 pm
by TexasStooge
:roll:

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:02 pm
by cycloneye
alicia-w wrote:yep, definitely child abuse. anything that leaves marks is considered abuse in this state.


Agree 100%.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:16 pm
by southerngale
alicia-w wrote:yep, definitely child abuse. anything that leaves marks is considered abuse in this state.


Even a red mark on a butt?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:19 pm
by Derek Ortt
were there any long term effects left on the boy? If not, IMO, this falls under the harsh punishment category, which is not child abuse

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:33 pm
by GalvestonDuck
Derek Ortt wrote:were there any long term effects left on the boy? If not, IMO, this falls under the harsh punishment category, which is not child abuse


Define long-term effects.

I was strangled. So, I was just harshly punished and not abused?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:46 pm
by Lindaloo
Derek Ortt wrote:were there any long term effects left on the boy? If not, IMO, this falls under the harsh punishment category, which is not child abuse


Come on Derek, this FATHER used a stun gun on his son. Long term affect is emotional I am sure. That is abuse.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:50 pm
by alicia-w
you're kidding, Derek, right? using a stun gun on a child isnt abuse?

wow. i'm stunned (no pun intended)

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:43 pm
by Derek Ortt
if there is no long term effects (such as any damage to his body, broken bones, injured muscles), how is this any different from school principles using a paddle, which does leave large marks, or slapping the hands with a ruler, which easily can break the kunckles?


Itshould not be the method of corporal punishment, rather the results that define child abuse

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:56 pm
by streetsoldier
Derek,

You are off-base on this one...using a WEAPON on a child is "not abusive"?

I'd have the old man up on charges of criminal assault I, child abuse, illegal use of a deadly weapon, armed criminal action, and breathing the same air as I do....for starters. :grrr:

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:57 pm
by Ixolib
Kinda reminds me of the discussion on the guy who bought a rabbit at a pet store then killed it, skinned it, and ate it. He got charged with animal abuse. But if he would have shot a rabbit in the woods, no problem (???).

But, now that I think about it, there were times about 11 years ago when I thought my then-14 year old son would have driven me to the stun-gun as well. Thankfully, I didn't go there and all is good now that he's 25!!

Okay, back on track - excuse the momentary derail!!

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:16 pm
by Lindaloo
He BOUGHT a rabbit from the pet store which means it is tame. I am not for killing wild ones either but there is no comparison to the sick serial killer type person who buys a tame rabbit from a pet store to kill it. That disgusts me and the comparison.

If you had stun gunned your son in Mississippi you would be underneath the jail!

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:24 pm
by Cookiely
I don't understand the rabbitt issue. Its food. What's wrong with killing it and eating it. Its no different than going to the farm and picking out a turkey to eat thanksgiving.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:43 pm
by vbhoutex
But, now that I think about it, there were times about 11 years ago when I thought my then-14 year old son would have driven me to the stun-gun as well. Thankfully, I didn't go there and all is good now that he's 25!!


I understand that one all to well. Just change the numbers to 8 and 22! They do grow up and out of it if you have done your job well.

And the use of a stun gun on a 14 year old is at a minimum child abuse!