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Our Nation Has Created A Monster

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:23 am
by Janice
I have heard the expression "our nation has created a monster, now can't do anything about it".

I used to think it was welfare. It got out of hand and the government had a hard time with it.

What other monsters do you see that the govenments seems either to have a hard time handling and dealing with that may have gotten out of control now.

We can't afford to have too many monsters without fixing some of them.

Re: Our Nation Has Created A Monster

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:02 am
by gtalum
Janice wrote:What other monsters do you see that the govenments seems either to have a hard time handling and dealing with that may have gotten out of control now.


Just about every foreign leader we've taken down and replaced has become a huge monster we can't handle. You'd think we'd learn to leave well enough alone, but we are poor students of history, I guess.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:14 am
by wxcrazytwo
correcto mundo gtalum. We are poor students of learning from the past. Anyways, Janice don't ya think the indians said the same thing when the euros came ashore. Hmm, they couldn't say or do much because they were later obliterated or moved to parcels of land given by the U.S.A. gov't.

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:26 am
by GalvestonDuck
wxcrazytwo wrote:correcto mundo gtalum. We are poor students of learning from the past. Anyways, Janice don't ya think the indians said the same thing when the euros came ashore. Hmm, they couldn't say or do much because they were later obliterated or moved to parcels of land given by the U.S.A. gov't.


So, rather than be obliterated this time around, aren't we justified in protecting our land, thereby, learning from the past?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:29 am
by gtalum
GalvestonDuck wrote:So, rather than be obliterated this time around, aren't we justified in protecting our land, thereby, learning from the past?


Sure we should. Now why hasn't the president addressed this problem?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:33 am
by GalvestonDuck
gtalum wrote:
GalvestonDuck wrote:So, rather than be obliterated this time around, aren't we justified in protecting our land, thereby, learning from the past?


Sure we should. Now why hasn't the president addressed this problem?


Don't know, but I fussed about it many times in the PA. :)

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:36 am
by wxcrazytwo
GalvestonDuck wrote:
wxcrazytwo wrote:correcto mundo gtalum. We are poor students of learning from the past. Anyways, Janice don't ya think the indians said the same thing when the euros came ashore. Hmm, they couldn't say or do much because they were later obliterated or moved to parcels of land given by the U.S.A. gov't.


So, rather than be obliterated this time around, aren't we justified in protecting our land, thereby, learning from the past?


Duckie, sad to say, but I think this land is not yours anymore. What is there to protect? The U.S.A. has been raped repeatedly by illegals of all walks of life entering our borders. The minority is now the majority.

Re: Our Nation Has Created A Monster

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:50 am
by stormie_skies
Janice wrote:I have heard the expression "our nation has created a monster, now can't do anything about it".

I used to think it was welfare. It got out of hand and the government had a hard time with it.

What other monsters do you see that the govenments seems either to have a hard time handling and dealing with that may have gotten out of control now.

We can't afford to have too many monsters without fixing some of them.


I think all of our quasi-wars on abstract ideas have become monsters - the war on poverty, the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, etc. All of them start with problems that are extremely complex and incredibly important - things the people of this country should take an interest in taking care of in a way that benefits society. But instead of looking at them from all angles and seriously trying to get down to the root of the problem, it seems like we just toss a sack of money in the governments lap, tell them that we are scared and that we will do what they want, and leave it at that. So the government uses that blank permission slip to spend at will, grow exponentially, wrap every issue imaginable into the "war" and wipe our rights and freedoms out of existence as they see fit .... but once we are at "war" (a silly thing to say anyways, because you can't be at war with an object, a state of being or a thing, anyways, really) people don't care, they just want the "enemy" to go away.

Its too bad we don't approach issues like these more thoughtfully as a nation. There are obviously valid problems that need fixing, but there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. Letting the government throw everything under the sun - from searches without probable cause to fat bloated budgets to one's ability to dissent peacefully - under the umbrella of a quasi-war strikes me as the wrong way.