STORM2K

http://www.wftv.com/news/6056445/detail.html

Very sad story, this just happened this morning. This is not far away from my home. So glad no other students were involved.

Prayers and thoughts with the boy's family and friends.

Eric

If you read the story again, it says the SWAT shot and killed him.....

Oh dear.

alicia-w wrote:If you read the story again, it says the SWAT shot and killed him.....

Yup, I guess so, they just updated the story, it had just happened when I posted and I guess they had not all the details yet. I will changed the thread title. Wow, I guess they did the right thing by shooting him, but how sad that they had too. Prayers go out to the boys family and friends.

it would seem they could use tear gas or something to disable him rather than killing him.. i feel so sorry for his parents.

alicia-w wrote:it would seem they could use tear gas or something to disable him rather than killing him.. i feel so sorry for his parents.

It's a tragedy that he got shot, but when someone's waving a gun around tear gas won't do much good.

If he brought a gun to school, I'd venture that the SWAT team did the right thing. We cannot allow students to bring deadly weapons to school where other students or the faculty may be harmed, maimed, or killed.

Terrell wrote:If he brought a gun to school, I'd venture that the SWAT team did the right thing. We cannot allow students to bring deadly weapons to school where other students or the faculty may be harmed, maimed, or killed.

This is obviously a developing story. As of now, the article says "weapon" not "gun" - so it's unclear what kind of weapon he had or what kind of threatening move he made which caused SWAT to fire.

I'm sure this will be thoroughly investigated. Sometimes such tragedies are avoidable, sometimes they aren't. I feel for the officer(s) involved - it's an awful thing to have killed anyone, let alone a child, no matter how justified it may have been.

gtalum wrote:

alicia-w wrote:it would seem they could use tear gas or something to disable him rather than killing him.. i feel so sorry for his parents.

It's a tragedy that he got shot, but when someone's waving a gun around tear gas won't do much good.

SWAT member outside of restroom...male student inside of restroom...would have seemed that the SWAT member could have stood at one side outside the restroom door entrance and with his body out of shooting range have lobbed the tear gas container into the restroom...oh well.

Terrell wrote:If he brought a gun to school, I'd venture that the SWAT team did the right thing. We cannot allow students to bring deadly weapons to school where other students or the faculty may be harmed, maimed, or killed.

I agree with this. However, I would hope the Swat erred on the side of reason in this situation. It appears to me that they had a very explosive situation on their hands and probably stopped it the best way they could. I'd like to think it could have been done differently, but this kid had already run and barricaded himself. When he started waving the gun it appears the proper reaction to protect EVERYONES life was taken. This is very TRAJIC!!! Unfortunately, these kids that do this kind of thing don't think about all the consequences that are possible.

the school had been evacuated. that's why i questioned why they had to shoot him. that's all.

I just read an article that said he was suicidal, so one way or another, he was determined to die. Although I find it odd that he ran to the restroom. Hesitant, maybe?

This kind of crap doesn't surprise me now...not after last week. If they survive their teenage years, kids filled with rage and a lack of self-worth grow up to be adults filled with rage and a lack of self-worth.

that's TOTALLY not fair and one of the least compassionate things i've ever heard you say. As a teenager, I was suicidal and angry, but not now.

Skywatch_NC wrote:SWAT member outside of restroom...male student inside of restroom...would have seemed that the SWAT member could have stood at one side outside the restroom door entrance and with his body out of shooting range have lobbed the tear gas container into the restroom...oh well.

It's always easy to play Monday morning quarterback.

sounds like there are a few folks who could give up cynicism for Lent this year.

gtalum wrote:

Skywatch_NC wrote:SWAT member outside of restroom...male student inside of restroom...would have seemed that the SWAT member could have stood at one side outside the restroom door entrance and with his body out of shooting range have lobbed the tear gas container into the restroom...oh well.

It's always easy to play Monday morning quarterback.

alicia-w wrote:that's TOTALLY not fair and one of the least compassionate things i've ever heard you say. As a teenager, I was suicidal and angry, but not now.

Geez I totally agree with Duckie, this kid was determined to die and he was probably hell bent on taking someone with him. I feel SWAT was correct with their decision to end the situation. The article on CNN said he even briefly took a hostage.....thats enough of a reason right there remove the threat.

http://us.cnn.com/2006/US/01/13/school. ... index.html

fwbbreeze

alicia-w wrote:that's TOTALLY not fair and one of the least compassionate things i've ever heard you say. As a teenager, I was suicidal and angry, but not now.

All right -- maybe I should have said "SOME kids...."

Least compassionate?? Gee, forgive me for being a bit perturbed because someone blasted his brains all over the garage wall with a shotgun in a selfish, stupid act that left his mother alone to deal with both that and his father's illness.

If they survive their teenage years, kids filled with rage and a lack of self-worth grow up to be adults filled with rage and a lack of self-worth.

That part was what i thought lacked compassion.