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First Foley, then Masilotti, and now this. It's really disgusting to see these things uncovered on a continual basis, but not the least bit surprising, unfortunately.

There must be some state accountability on these people at the various state levels. These things have got to come to a halt sooner or later, or there may be many repercussions. These levels of corruption just have to be weeded out. There is no excuse for any of it.

Please do NOT try to make this thread political. I'm just pointing these things out. If this thread is too political or reaches the aforementioned level of political, anyone feel free to delete it.

Hope this doesn't stir up a hornet's nest...

Corruption in high places has dogged civilization from the very beginning. Crises happen, leaders are disgraced, catastrophes happen. While our nation is one of the bright spots, we are not immune to the same problems. The leaders are just like the rest of us. some good, some bad. All are capable of good and bad. "Good moral character" only means that someone has'nt been caught, or so far has managed to resist the temptations that we all are subject to. There is no such thing as a higher standard because then nobody would qualify. All you can do is react to it and go on. I think that the two party system feeds the outrage. Each side tries to play these situations to maximize their own advantage, when they're both just playing the same games. Humanity moves on through the good and the bad.

Hey, did you know that the Chinese emporer who was responsible for much of the construction of the Great Wall was the illegitamite son of a queen and a member of the court? The great wall helped deflect the Huns westward to Europe and contribute to the downfall of the Roman Empire. All that history that was influenced by a sigle "indiscretion" of a person in high places. Had that queen chosen to be "good" instead, maybe none of us would be here to argue about it!

coriolis wrote:Corruption in high places has dogged civilization from the very beginning. Crises happen, leaders are disgraced, catastrophes happen. While our nation is one of the bright spots, we are not immune to the same problems. The leaders are just like the rest of us. some good, some bad. All are capable of good and bad. "Good moral character" only means that someone has'nt been caught, or so far has managed to resist the temptations that we all are subject to. There is no such thing as a higher standard because then nobody would qualify. All you can do is react to it and go on. I think that the two party system feeds the outrage. Each side tries to play these situations to maximize their own advantage, when they're both just playing the same games. Humanity moves on through the good and the bad.

Hey, did you know that the Chinese emporer who was responsible for much of the construction of the Great Wall was the illegitamite son of a queen and a member of the court? The great wall helped deflect the Huns westward to Europe and contribute to the downfall of the Roman Empire. All that history that was influenced by a sigle "indiscretion" of a person in high places. Had that queen chosen to be "good" instead, maybe none of us would be here to argue about it!

Some good points there, but it depends how a decision is handled as well to influence a better outcome for various sides, including economically. Corruption has always existed, but today's unique party systems magnify that problem (although similar party organization affiliates and problems have obviously existed in the past under many examples). The rapidity of which these scams and corruption at various state and federal levels, although hardly surprising, are still troubling due to the subtle economic and other repercussions these corruptions have. Foley and other politicians, including the subject of this thread, need to be held more accountable (although the chances of that happening are below the level of slim).