STORM2K

No punishment could fit the crime for this inhumane monster.
http://tinyurl.com/ypuqk7

This is a perfect example of why some of us advocate an express line for the death penalty. Heinous crimes like this should be dealt with swiftly. Habitual criminal, utterly reprehensible.

A bigger question: why was he released on bail for grand theft charges when he was on probation? I thought that if you were charged with a crime that would violate your probation agreement (and I can't imagine that any probation would allow grand theft) you would be immediately locked up until your trial.

The guy spent 3 days in jail, after pleading guilty to SIX counts of grand theft.

What's wrong with this picture?

gtalum wrote:A bigger question: why was he released on bail for grand theft charges when he was on probation? I thought that if you were charged with a crime that would violate your probation agreement (and I can't imagine that any probation would allow grand theft) you would be immediately locked up until your trial.

I think they should look into that after they dump a few gallons of gas on his A$$ and light him up....

feederband wrote:I think they should look into that after they dump a few gallons of gas on his A$$ and light him up....

It doesn't make me popular here, but I for one am glad we as a society don't subscribe to the ancient "eye for an eye" doctrine. We don't need state-sponsored cruelty to achieve justice.

gtalum wrote:

feederband wrote:I think they should look into that after they dump a few gallons of gas on his A$$ and light him up....

It doesn't make me popular here, but I for one am glad we as a society don't subscribe to the ancient "eye for an eye" doctrine. We don't need state-sponsored cruelty to achieve justice.

Why not...Its probably the reason we have these crazy's willing to do these things...They know out Whimpy Justice system is just going to give them maybe life in jail for destorying three live if they all live that is...Its really just a slap on the wrist for the crimes that they commit....


Maybe if one would think you know if I torch these 2 ladys thats the penalty I will get. He may just not do it...Have you thought of that...Now instead he says hey if I torch these lady's I get 3 meals a day and know worries for the rest of my life...

If this guy was not breathing right now it would be a great thing...

I agree feederband. The article says that both women (one of which is pregnant) suffered 90% burns. Thats horrible. Their lives (physically and emotionally) are scared forever.

gtalum wrote:

feederband wrote:I think they should look into that after they dump a few gallons of gas on his A$$ and light him up....

It doesn't make me popular here, but I for one am glad we as a society don't subscribe to the ancient "eye for an eye" doctrine. We don't need state-sponsored cruelty to achieve justice.

Really? Then how do we achieve justice? Even the prisoners at Supermax in Fountain, Colorado.....call the solitary confinement at their prison cruel and unusual punishment.

I think in this situation you would have to put yourself in the position of being next of kin to the victims. Let them decide the punishment. If they decide forgiveness or 15 minutes in a room all alone with the guy.....either way....we should honor their decision.

90% of your body with burns is a death sentence. I know that is harsh.....but the survival rate with that high a percentage gets narrow.

This crime was horrific.....it's right up there with getting your head cut off by some religious zealot in a mask and then posting it on the web. Something was clearly wrong with this man. Right off I would suspect mental illness. If thats the case......why wasn't he institutionalized earlier. Are jailers in Florida trained to recognize symptoms of deviant behavior?

Bottom line is that there will be no justice for this crime.

I would not be surprised to read that he has been murdered in prison.

I'd hate like hell to have been his public defender on the six grand theft guilty pleas and subsequent release. Maybe that's where this guy slipped through........

feederband wrote:Maybe if one would think you know if I torch these 2 ladys thats the penalty I will get. He may just not do it...Have you thought of that...Now instead he says hey if I torch these lady's I get 3 meals a day and know worries for the rest of my life...

It has been shown that harsher punishments do not deter violent criminals. Nearly all of them are not thinking coherently about consequences when they commit these crimes. Put them away for life... and I'm not opposed to the death penalty in certain cases, like this one for instance if one or both of the victims die. State-sponsored torture has no place in a civilized society, though.

gtalum wrote:

feederband wrote:Maybe if one would think you know if I torch these 2 ladys thats the penalty I will get. He may just not do it...Have you thought of that...Now instead he says hey if I torch these lady's I get 3 meals a day and know worries for the rest of my life...

It has been shown that harsher punishments do not deter violent criminals. Nearly all of them are not thinking coherently about consequences when they commit these crimes. Put them away for life... and I'm not opposed to the death penalty in certain cases, like this one for instance if one or both of the victims die. State-sponsored torture has no place in a civilized society, though.

Then the family's should be the ones to decide their fate....Then its not state sponsored...

feederband wrote:Then the family's should be the ones to decide their fate....Then its not state sponsored...

No, then it's just vigilante vengeance, which is as bad as the original crime itself. Our justice system has served us just fine for a couple of centuries and some. Revenge does not equal justice.

I thought you people were christians, anyway...

I heard this morning that the baby died. They had to take it by C-section in order for it to have even a slim chance.

Chaulk up at least one more murder charge to the rest of his charges.

I believe that they also said that he is suspected of two other murders that happened about 5-6 days before he set the two women on fire. The ammo casings matched in both. I will see if I can find the article.

gtalum wrote:

feederband wrote:Then the family's should be the ones to decide their fate....Then its not state sponsored...

No, then it's just vigilante vengeance, which is as bad as the original crime itself. Our justice system has served us just fine for a couple of centuries and some. Revenge does not equal justice.

I thought you people were christians, anyway...

I am Atheist...

Article about the baby http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/page ... geId=3.1.1


Article about the other crime
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/a ... ryid=69880


Talk about sick.

gtalum wrote:

feederband wrote:Then the family's should be the ones to decide their fate....Then its not state sponsored...

No, then it's just vigilante vengeance, which is as bad as the original crime itself. Our justice system has served us just fine for a couple of centuries and some. Revenge does not equal justice.

I thought you people were christians, anyway...

My faith in Christianity went down the tubes long ago. I still pray....possibly more now than in earlier years. I pray for guidance and folks requiring comfort. I do not read the Bible.....I carry the Book of Common Prayer. We need to remember that our system of justice is judgemental. It is not our place to judge.

I saw a bumper sticker today....it said...."Only God can judge bin Laden......it is the Marine Corps job to make that meeting take place".

As many faults as our justice system has it's still one of the best in the world IMO. Whether you believe in God, karma or just that the universe balances itself, this guy will eventually get his.