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This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:54 pm
by azsnowman
I swear, WTH is the MATTER with the criminal justice system these days :grr: This sick SOB should be sent to death row, no appeals, NOTHING :grr:

During my studies of the criminal justice system, I did a 16 week class on sexual preditors etc. and there is ROCK SOLID proof that the offenders are NOT capable of rehabilition and yet they keep letting scum like this out and look what happens! :grr:

http://www.azcentral.com

Girl grabbed from jungle gym, sexually assaulted, police say
Michael Kiefer and Leigh Munsil
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 13, 2007 08:02 PM

A man accused of sexually assaulting a 4-year-old girl at a Phoenix playground earlier this week spent nearly 12 years in prison for committing a virtually identical crime.

In November, he was arrested and jailed after police saw him running naked down Van Buren Street.

One day before Wednesday's attack, he was released from jail on his own recognizance, despite his sex offender status.





Court records describe William R. Speed, 35, as psychologically troubled and prone to hearing voices.

Wednesday evening, at around 7 p.m., Speed reportedly approached a girl playing on a jungle gym in a park near Van Buren Street and 12th Avenue. Speed had partially removed his clothes and the girl's clothes before family members and witnesses heard the girl's screams and pulled him off of her. They held him down until police arrived, according to Phoenix Police spokeswoman Stacie Derge.

The girl did not suffer any serious physical injury, Derge said, but was traumatized by the attack.

The attack appeared to be random, Derge said, and police have no reason to believe that the girl knew him.

Speed was charged with sexual conduct with a minor.

But the attack bore close resemblance to a 1995 attack on a 7-year-old girl that sent Speed to prison for nearly 12 years.

On September 23, 1995, Speed approached a girl who was walking her dog near his apartment. As the child was cleaning up after her dog, according to court records, Speed sat down next to her and removed his pants, then partially disrobed the girl and sexually assaulted her. As in Wednesday's attack, onlookers chased Speed and caught him.

Because of that attack, Speed was charged with kidnapping and sexual conduct with a minor, but in July 1996, he pleaded guilty to attempted sexual conduct with a minor, and was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

During interviews for his pre-sentence report and a psychological evaluation in the court record, he told evaluators that he heard voices in his head and on the radio that told him to “have sex with a baby.” He thought the girl in the 1995 attack was enticing him, he said.

Speed is originally from San Jose, Calif. He told evaluators that his stepfather was sent to a mental institution for child molestation and that a stepmother had sexual relations with him as a teen. He was arrested but not charged for a pair of petty incidents in the 1990s before the attack that sent him to prison.

Speed was first released from the Arizona Department of Corrections in January 2006, after serving 85 percent of his sentence, but was sent back a year later to finish out his term after a technical parole violation that corrections officials did not specify. He was released Oct. 5, 2007.

A little more than a month later, at about 10:30 p.m. on Nov. 7, he was arrested after running naked behind a bar in the 1800 block of W. Van Buren St. Speed told the arresting officer that he had just smoked cocaine and felt like taking off his pants and running, court records show.

Speed was charged with indecent exposure in that incident and initially held on bond. Then, according to court records, he was released Dec. 11 on his own recognizance.

Because of the 1996 conviction, Speed is registered as a Class 3 sex offender, the highest level, and Derge said he kept his sex offender registration current; his last update was on Nov. 20, when he listed his address as an overflow homeless shelter on Madison Street, a half mile south of the park where the attack took place.

There were no stipulations in Speed's registration that say he cannot be around children, Derge said.

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:33 pm
by Ptarmigan
Put him in the woodchipper feet first. :grr:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:48 pm
by HURAKAN
Yeah, he should die, he does no good to humanity.

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:52 pm
by feederband
Ptarmigan wrote:Put him in the woodchipper feet first. :grr:


I think so of those old fashion torture devises like the iron madden would be cool to use on these people...

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:55 pm
by Category 5
Ptarmigan wrote:Put him in the woodchipper feet first. :grr:


Yeah, chop him in half and let him sit in agony. :grr:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:59 pm
by HURAKAN
Leave him in the middle of the Gobi in July.

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:23 pm
by MississippiHurricane
Category 5 wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:Put him in the woodchipper feet first. :grr:


Yeah, chop him in half and let him sit in agony. :grr:


Nah thats tooooooo easy...........cut his eyelids and let his eyes dry out. Its funny how people claim stuff like they "hear" voices only after they get into trouble with the law. This is just sick and those poor girls! But of course the guy who did these crimes does not care about anyone but himself. Okay ranting done.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:21 am
by Cryomaniac
You people are just as sick for calling for all these archaic tortures. I find this site very odd, in that you support morality and prayer, etc. but go off on one and wish people to get ebola and whatever. Yeah, he should be punished, as severely as the law will allow i.e no torture, cutting off eyelids, etc.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:16 am
by Chacor
Cryomaniac wrote:You people are just as sick for calling for all these archaic tortures. I find this site very odd, in that you support morality and prayer, etc. but go off on one and wish people to get ebola and whatever. Yeah, he should be punished, as severely as the law will allow i.e no torture, cutting off eyelids, etc.


I was avoiding this thread because I knew what the responses would be like. Finally, someone with some sense. Thank you.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:24 am
by HURAKAN
Cryomaniac wrote:You people are just as sick for calling for all these archaic tortures. I find this site very odd, in that you support morality and prayer, etc. but go off on one and wish people to get ebola and whatever. Yeah, he should be punished, as severely as the law will allow i.e no torture, cutting off eyelids, etc.


We were just commenting on what punishments should be implemented on such an individual. He does no good to humanity and it's mentally unstable. The law will probably sent him to jail for sometime or for the rest of his life. In the meantime, we have to pay through our taxes his stay in prison.

So, we have to tolerate his misdoings and at the same time pay for his time in jail. Please.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:54 am
by Cryomaniac
HURAKAN wrote:We were just commenting on what punishments should be implemented on such an individual. He does no good to humanity and it's mentally unstable. The law will probably sent him to jail for sometime or for the rest of his life. In the meantime, we have to pay through our taxes his stay in prison.

So, we have to tolerate his misdoings and at the same time pay for his time in jail. Please.


We don't have to tolerate his misdoings at all, he should be vilified, but calling for his torture is out of line, in my opinion.

What about everyone else in jail for life without parole? We pay for them too, should they all be tortured and executed?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm very much in favour of the death penalty, but it's up to the courts to decide if that's what he deserves.

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:36 am
by Stephanie
Definitely keep him off the streets for the rest of his life. He cannot be allowed to be with the rest of society.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:48 am
by feederband
Cryomaniac wrote:You people are just as sick for calling for all these archaic tortures. I find this site very odd, in that you support morality and prayer, etc. but go off on one and wish people to get ebola and whatever. Yeah, he should be punished, as severely as the law will allow i.e no torture, cutting off eyelids, etc.


I can not think of one good enough to fit his crime...But cutting off his eyelids would just be a start..

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:20 pm
by Ptarmigan
Cryomaniac wrote:You people are just as sick for calling for all these archaic tortures. I find this site very odd, in that you support morality and prayer, etc. but go off on one and wish people to get ebola and whatever. Yeah, he should be punished, as severely as the law will allow i.e no torture, cutting off eyelids, etc.


If YOU DON'T like this thread, than DON'T bother to reply. We all like to vent sometimes.

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:10 pm
by Chacor
Ptarmigan wrote:
Cryomaniac wrote:You people are just as sick for calling for all these archaic tortures. I find this site very odd, in that you support morality and prayer, etc. but go off on one and wish people to get ebola and whatever. Yeah, he should be punished, as severely as the law will allow i.e no torture, cutting off eyelids, etc.


If YOU DON'T like this thread, than DON'T bother to reply. We all like to vent sometimes.


You cannot possibly be that unfair. Some people here really make no sense.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:18 pm
by Derek Ortt
if prisoners here in the USA did not have all of the accessories in prison, maybe prison would be considered more of a suitable punishment.

The prisoners receive cable television, and many other perks that some on the putside cannot enjoy. This is wrong, IMO. I'd rather there be some severe punishment, make it a deterrant. Instead, if one is homeless, there is incentive to go out and commit a crime, just so they can have a place to stay

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:25 pm
by Ed Mahmoud
The recidivism rate among child molesters is near 100%. It is, basically, an incurbale form of mental illness.

Child molesters should be committed to mental hospitals for life when they complete their prison sentences. Not to punish them, but to protect the children.

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:28 am
by southerngale
Cryomaniac and Chacor,

Most of the time, when you see responses like that, they're just knee-jerk reactions. You don't want to know my first thoughts of what should be done with that piece of scum.

Sickos like that can really mess up childrens' lives forever, if they even survive the attacks. Innocent children. It's easy to get REALLY mad and say things that you know will never actually happen.

I don't think sickos like that deserve to EVER be in the presence of another child again. There are several ways to achieve that.

Re: This is SICK...he DESERVES the death penalty

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:42 am
by Dionne
Ed Mahmoud wrote:The recidivism rate among child molesters is near 100%. It is, basically, an incurbale form of mental illness.

Child molesters should be committed to mental hospitals for life when they complete their prison sentences. Not to punish them, but to protect the children.


Where did you find the 100% recidivism rate for child molesters? I've looked everywhere and cannot find that statistic. The highest number I found was under 50%. Burglars are the highest.....approaching 70%. I did find some other interesting numbers. For one.....our recividism rate nationally has been on a steady increase for decades. It is over 60%. As for Arizona inmates.....55.3% are non-violent offenders and 77.5% are first time offenders. For western states....Arizonas inmate population is growing at 3 times the average.

This guy y'all are talking about was a known nut case (hearing voices) with a prior history.......and he was released???? The Arizona penal system let this guy walk free while more than half of the states inmates are non-violent!!

The most disturbing statistic found suggested that only 1 out of 3 "sexual offender" crimes are reported to law enforcement.

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:54 am
by Opal storm
Derek Ortt wrote:if prisoners here in the USA did not have all of the accessories in prison, maybe prison would be considered more of a suitable punishment.

The prisoners receive cable television, and many other perks that some on the putside cannot enjoy.
Yep, warm showers, hot meals, they go outside and play basketball and lift weights and socialize. While their victims are scared for life if not dead.