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#10321 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:36 am

Eye is clearing out. Would not be surprised to see Cat 5 on next recon pass. Cloud tops have weakened somewhat though.
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#10322 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:37 am

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That's to be scared of.
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#10323 Postby hiflyer » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:37 am

GCM 1553 201555Z 10025G33KT 8000 -RA BKN010 OVC070 28/26 Q1005
KIN 1607 NIL
KIN 1613 201600Z 13023KT 9999 FEW020 BKN200 29/23 Q1012
KIN 1615 COR 201600Z E13023KT 9999 FEW020 BKN200 29/23 Q1012
MIA 1555 201553Z 08015G23KT 10SM BKN030 BKN300 31/23 A3006 RMK
AO2 SLP180 T03110228 $
CUN 1551 201546Z 06013KT 7SM BKN018TCU BKN250 30/24 A2989 RMK 8
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SDQ 1554 201600Z 09006KT 9999 BKN022 30/25 Q1014
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#10324 Postby secretforecaster » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:43 am

cyberantonio wrote:
bigGbear wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:Tampico has more 300K, the Veracruz metro area has 800K

to be honest, I could not care less about tourism... I care about the number of people that this will actually impact and that number is going to be high. Also, read up on what Hurricane Diana in 1990 did to this area... at 85KT, it was far more deadly than Wilma and also destroyed 75K homes


Derek's point about the population is well taken. Veracruz (about 19.2) seems too far south
to take a big hit from Dean. Tuxpan and Tampico are another matter. Hopefully, by this time it will be Cat2 or less.
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Just to update your information , Tampico has over 500K. We are following the track of Dean very closely at this time goverment has started meetings in order to prepare shelters. The area between Tampico - Tuxpan includes three important cities, the rest of it are rural areas.


Stay safe Cyberantonio!!!
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#10325 Postby Windspeed » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:45 am

wxmann_91 wrote:Eye is clearing out. Would not be surprised to see Cat 5 on next recon pass. Cloud tops have weakened somewhat though.


Cloud tops have weakened? If anything, the CDO is becoming its most intense since Dean has existed. The eye is continuing to clear out. If you're looking at the IR AVN, a large band -80ºC tops pushing up on the tropopause. Recon will find a Cat 5.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (8 AM page 279) Discussions, Analysis

#10326 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:48 am

Eye tracking towards Majahual, Mexico, a small town on the coast around 25 miles northeast of state capital Chetumal. If it takes Dean on the nose it should be decimated.
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#10327 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:49 am

Windspeed wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:Eye is clearing out. Would not be surprised to see Cat 5 on next recon pass. Cloud tops have weakened somewhat though.


Cloud tops have weakened? If anything, the CDO is becoming its most intense since Dean has existed. The eye is continuing to clear out. If you're looking at the IR AVN, a large band -80ºC tops pushing up on the tropopause. Recon will find a Cat 5.

The ring of dark reds has eroded a bit on the southern side, that's what I was referring to. I'm thinking it will find a Cat 5 too.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (8 AM page 279) Discussions, Analysis

#10328 Postby wxfollower » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:49 am

Will this thing go further south and hit Guatemala? My dad retired 4 years ago in Guatemala and just built a house down there. Unfortunately, it was built to withstand only rain and some wind, but no strong winds. Most of Belize and the border of Guatemala is mostly small towns that will get devastated, since most of the builldings are made of weak wood and aluminum siding. I have been there and while its pretty they will see catastrophic damage if it decides to go there.
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#10329 Postby richtrav » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:54 am

Antonio

Good luck down there, we'll be hoping and praying for all of you. I love Tampico, was there a week ago, and would hate to see it devastated. I'm glad it doesn't look like it's coming here to South Texas and hope it stays away from all the cities on the western Gulf.
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#10330 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:56 am

This will likely not hit Guatemala. Some flooding though is possible with the feeder bands. I don't think it will be like Gilbert as Derek stated, just b/c the feederbands are less spread out than with Gilbert.

FWIW, Dean has been heading due west since dawn. Extrapolation places landfall area near Chetumal/extreme northern Belize.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (8 AM page 279) Discussions, Analysis

#10331 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:59 am

Will this thing go further south and hit Guatamala?



My opinion is not endorsed by Storm2k:


The official track has been almost dead-on for most of Dean's path. I would say even very northern Guatemala should experience only hurricane gusts. You could see heavy rain however, but they can probably handle that within reason. Southern Guatemala should feel only minor winds from this. Will it go south into Guatemala? - almost definitely not if the prediction performs as it has.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models

#10332 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:01 pm

mgpetre wrote:So am I the last holdout that still thinks this has a good chance at a US landfall? I'm still saying just N. of Brnsville to S. or Corpus. I'll stick to it till the weakness clears out of the gulf completely...


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

It's not even going to re-enter the gulf without some kind of turn to the north. I think you're ignoring something. :)
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#10333 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:09 pm

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If this is not a Cat. 5, then the Cat. 4 range must have been extended!!!
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#10334 Postby Stratosphere747 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:09 pm

Can of hard to believe that in a few hours we may have a confirmed cat 5. Despite the last few years, historically these are simply unique.
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#10335 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:09 pm

the when the eye passes Guatemala to the north is when the flooding will begin

the inflow shape is going to be causing inflow from the pacific, which will cause flooding
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (8 AM page 279) Discussions, Analysis

#10336 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:10 pm

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#10337 Postby dtrain44 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:12 pm

Have there been any storm surge predictions from the NHC or others yet or are we still too far from landfall?
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (8 AM page 279) Discussions, Analysis

#10338 Postby PerryW » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:13 pm

1615z Dvorak rating is near T-7.0. That equates out to estimated sustained winds of 161 mph (140 kts).

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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (8 AM page 279) Discussions, Analysis

#10339 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:13 pm

I think Dean is already a Category 5 hurricane as of right now.
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#10340 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:13 pm

This is mother nature at her finest folks.. :eek:
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