CAT 5 Hurricane Dean - Archived threads

[greg_kfdm_tv]

So no data with the 0z 2nite?

He is talking about the actual recon into Dean this afternoon not the Gulfstream sampling outside the storm.

[tolakram]

Can we cut the non Dean talk please? I'm having trouble finding any Dean info in all the other talk.

[Stratosphere747]

It may not be the speed of the ULL, but the continuing speed of Dean that would allow it to catch up.

Enough - Waiting for the 0z run, and the initial interpretation from the NHC with the 5am package..

[AL Chili Pepper]

Do keep in mind that the ULL was never forecast to begin moving by the models until tomorrow or Saturday. We will see what happens then and if it begins to move.

It does look like the ULL is starting to move grudgingly to the west a little (if you look at the very center in the water vapor loop). The GFS shows it pulling out slowly over the next 24 hours and gradually pick up speed as it moves west.

[Stephanie]

Small earthquake in Dominica before Dean impact.

http://www.cbc.bb/content/view/12185/45/

Adding insult to injury...

When I went on a cruise through the islands, Dominca was one of the stops. It was the only island I didn't tour. I did tour St. Thomas, St. Maarten, Martinique and Barbados. It truly is paradise down there!

[HURAKAN]

The problems with this aircraft were Satellite Communication problems with the flight meteorologist (ARWO). Ground stations at KNHC, KBIX and TISX could not gather any data from the aircraft. We know this because we trouble shooted all locations and all computers/modems worked correctly. It was an aircraft malfunction.... not problems with the recordings!

Did the NHC get the data?

No. The aircraft couldn't communicate with the ground stations... KNHC IS a ground station.

Did the NHC get the data after the mission was over?

[caribepr]

Small earthquake in Dominica before Dean impact.

http://www.cbc.bb/content/view/12185/45/

Adding insult to injury...

When I went on a cruise through the islands, Dominca was one of the stops. It was the only island I didn't tour. I did tour St. Thomas, St. Maarten, Martinique and Barbados. It truly is paradise down there!

Smiling here...yes...it is.

[Extremeweatherguy]

I agree completely stratosphere. I think the speed of Dean may be the fly in the ointment. It could allow Dean to catch up with the ULL near the Yucatan and possibly move the storm in a more WNW or NW direction. We will just have to wait and see.

[pojo]

The reason why the reports were garbled was because the 5304 (the aircraft) COULDN'T communicate with the Ground Stations.... That IS the only way NHC gets the data (and you guys too.)

Until that aircraft is fixed... that WILL NOT fly into the storm again... that leaves us with 1... yes 1 aircraft to fly into Dean... the other spare aircraft had maintenance problems in flight and the hopefully 5302 came in without problems.... maintenance MIGHT be able to do a quick turn on the aircraft for tomorrow morning.

You guys (and gals) need to realize that a couple of years back these reports were NOT released to the public until the aircraft safely landed back at station.

Please direct ALL Hurricane Hunters questions to myself... I will try to get them answered as soon as possible.

[shelby]

I was watching a channel on tv called Texas Cable News, and they were reporting that Dallas and Fort Worth are preparing for potential refugees, and that supplies of gasoline were being transported to the major evacuation routes like I-10 and I-45 as we speak. Large supplies of water were also en route to the coast, and the Red Cross was preparing. It sounds like Texas will be a lot better prepared if worse comes to worse.

That is nice but interesting after some of the comments that have come from Dallas govt in the past couple of years

[Brent]

The central core looks very ominous... this should be a major tomorrow. It's solid red and I think an eye will pop out soon.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn.jpg

[HURAKAN]

Can we cut the non Dean talk please? I'm having trouble finding any Dean info in all the other talk.

Agree. Please, no one needs to get offended, but I would ask the moderators, if possible, to create another thread which discusses the preparations in the US for the possible approach of Dean so we can focus to what is happening with the storm.

[Sanibel]

Left side of storm. St Lucia off Stormcarib.com:

It got suddenly dark about an hour ago and then came some major rain and probably 40 - 50 mph gusts for about 20 minutes. Driving from the office there are already downed trees and debris along the way. It hasn't stopped raining but the winds have died for now. Lightening accompanied with thunder started about 20 minutes ago.

Will keep posting as long as there's elec. and internet service.

Mike....

[shelby]

Can we cut the non Dean talk please? I'm having trouble finding any Dean info in all the other talk.

Agree. Please, no one needs to get offended, but I would ask the moderators, if possible, to create another thread which discusses the preparations in the US for the possible approach of Dean so we can focus to what is happening with the storm.

No offense - point taken

[RL3AO]

Thanks for clearing that up. Did you say a third aircraft was on its way? And at which longitude will the flights start originating out of Keesler?

[Ptarmigan]

The central core looks very ominous... this should be a major tomorrow. It's solid red and I think an eye will pop out soon.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn.jpg

I think it will be a major hurricane by tonight or early tomorrow morning.

[weatherguru18]

I was watching a channel on tv called Texas Cable News, and they were reporting that Dallas and Fort Worth are preparing for potential refugees, and that supplies of gasoline were being transported to the major evacuation routes like I-10 and I-45 as we speak. Large supplies of water were also en route to the coast, and the Red Cross was preparing. It sounds like Texas will be a lot better prepared if worse comes to worse.

That is nice but interesting after some of the comments that have come from Dallas govt in the past couple of years

I agree. It seems that after Rita, some local officials from Dallas said that evacuees would not be allowed there because of all the problems Houston encountered taking in people from N.O. I think they have since re-thought that.

IMO--they are just jealous that we are more important and are overall a better city than they...IMO** Back to Dean.

[pojo]

Did the NHC get the data after the mission was over?

Honestly, I don't know... I'm not at Ops right now to answer that question. If they did... they would have had to communicate over radio... that's a royal pain in the ass....

I'll find out when I go in to launch the aircraft tomorrow morning.

[weatherman21]

A look at Hurricane Dean from a different angle:

GOES IR at 01:15Z Tonight:

[pojo]

Thanks for clearing that up. Did you say a third aircraft was on its way? And at which longitude will the flights start originating out of Keesler?

The aircraft is here at TISX already.

I can't give you a direct *N.... I'll know when we start heading back home.