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#6881 Postby jacindc » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:05 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote: Dean hasn't slowed down yet though...still moving at 21mph...and I don't really see how he would slow either. A strong high to the north would equal a fast motion. The only way he would really slow significantly is if he found a weakness or if the high became less powerful (which in turn would also likely lead to more of a WNW or NW motion).


Slowed a touch down to 19 mph in 8 pm advisory.
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Re: DEAN: Global Models=18z GFDL,landfall in Freeport,Texas

#6882 Postby canegrl04 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:06 pm

Too early to be declaring this a Mexico 'cane.People in the Gulf cannot let their guard down just yet.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (11am p161) Discussions, Analysis

#6883 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:06 pm

Its 115kts but public advisories don't do knots.

115kts = Cat 4

115kts=132 mph which rounds down to 130.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Advisories Only= 8 PM,130 mph,Cat 4

#6884 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:06 pm

...Corrected maximum wind speed to 135 mph...


...Dean reaches category four strength as its center passes south of
the Virgin Islands...
At 800 PM AST...0000 UTC...the government of the Dominican Republic
has issued a Hurricane Warning along portions of the southern coast
of the Dominican Republic from Barahona westward to the
Haiti/Dominican Republic border...and a Tropical Storm Warning from
Cabo engano westward to Barahona. A Hurricane Warning means that
hurricane conditions are expected within the warning area within
the next 24 hours. Preparations to protect life and property
should be rushed to completion. A Tropical Storm Warning means
that tropical storm conditions are expected within the warning area
within the next 24 hours.
A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for Guadeloupe and its
dependencies. This warning will likely be discontinued later
tonight.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the following
islands of the Lesser Antilles...Montserrat...Antigua...Nevis...St
Kitts...Barbuda...and Anguilla and the British Virgin Islands. The
warning will likely be discontinued later tonight.
A Tropical Storm Warning also remains in effect for the U.S. Virgin
Islands and Puerto Rico.

A Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch remain in effect for
Haiti from the Haiti/Dominican Republic border to Port-au-Prince.

A Hurricane Watch is also in effect for Jamaica. A Hurricane Watch
means that hurricane conditions are possible within the watch
area... generally within 36 hours.

A tropical storm watch is in effect for portions of southeastern
Cuba...from the province of Camaguey eastward to the province of
Guantanamo. A tropical storm watch means that tropical storm
conditions are possible within the watch area...generally within 36
hours.

Interests elsewhere in the central and western Caribbean...including
western Cuba...the Cayman Islands...and the Yucatan Peninsula of
Mexico should closely monitor the progress of Dean.

For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.

At 800 PM AST...0000z...the center of Hurricane Dean was located
near latitude 14.9 north...longitude 65.1 west or about 800 miles...
1290 km...east-southeast of Kingston Jamaica and about 255 miles...
410 km...south-southeast of San Juan Puerto Rico.

Dean is moving toward the west near 19 mph...31 km/hr. This
motion is expected to continue through Saturday with a gradual
decrease in forward speed. On this track...the core of the
hurricane will be moving well south of Puerto Rico tonight.

Reports from an Air Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft indicate
that maximum sustained winds have increased to at least 135
mph...215 km/hr...with higher gusts. Dean is now a category four
hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale. Some additional
strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 30 miles...45 km...from
the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 185
miles...295 km.

The minimum central pressure just reported by the aircraft was 946
mb...27.93 inches.

Storm total rainfall amounts of 1 to 2 inches can be expected from
Dean over Puerto Rico...the Dominican Republic and Haiti with
maximum amounts up to 5 inches possible. These rains could cause
life-threatening flash floods and mudslides.

Repeating the 800 PM AST position...14.9 N...65.1 W. Movement
toward...west near 19 mph. Maximum sustained winds...135 mph.
Minimum central pressure...946 mb.

The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
1100 PM AST.

$$
Forecaster Knabb
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Advisories Only= 8 PM,130 mph,Cat 4

#6885 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:07 pm

[bWTNT34 KNHC 180004
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HURRICANE DEAN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 19A...CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042007
800 PM AST FRI AUG 17 2007

...CORRECTED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED TO 135 MPH...]/b]
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#6886 Postby Stratosphere747 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:07 pm

KBBOCA wrote:MODS:

wxman57's post above is so clear and helpful.
viewtopic.php?p=1602005#p1602005

I wonder if it's time to really ramp up a Texas / Louisiana info thread ONLY for such postings by local pro mets, and for official advisory Emergency Mgmt type posts.

Maybe use the current evac thread, but rename it and post very clear guidelines as to what is appropriate?

All "chatter" (even "we're thinking of and praying for you) should be banned in that thread. Posts by and for local residents in the likely landfall areas only focusing on specific facts and practical info...

Just my two cents as a concerned outside observer. These kinds of posts shouldn't be buried in a 180+ page thread for those under great stress and needing timely and clear info.


I think this is a good idea, but a bit to soon. Maybe by Sunday depending on the track.

Right now the board is so pumped that any relevant information is quickly lost no matter the thread, with the exception of the advisory and recon thread.
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#6887 Postby chadtm80 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:07 pm

...CORRECTED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED TO 135 MPH...
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Re: Re:

#6888 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:07 pm

jacindc wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote: Dean hasn't slowed down yet though...still moving at 21mph...and I don't really see how he would slow either. A strong high to the north would equal a fast motion. The only way he would really slow significantly is if he found a weakness or if the high became less powerful (which in turn would also likely lead to more of a WNW or NW motion).


Slowed a touch down to 19 mph in 8 pm advisory.
oh yes, you're right.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models=18z GFDL Near Galveston

#6889 Postby Frank P » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:08 pm

kozzieman wrote:I see where the GFDL has moved to the W into TX. WWL-TV 4 out of NOLA prepared a nice little video clip on their website earlier today which explained what factors would have to come into play to allow Dean to come up into S central LA but I'll imagine that video clip will be updated soon now that the GFDL model has been shifted further to the W into TX. So I guess the MS Gulf Coast is now considered safe because of that model's recent shift to the W into TX?


I would like to see a couple more runs of the GFDL to central Tx and I'll be feeling a lot better over here in Biloxi... (not wishing any harm to the great state of Tx or any other area for that matter) I just had my final house inspection and got my cert of occupany today... I am NOT in the mood to build another house.. it took me a year to build this one... it is looking more and more like TX is the main US concern... but that being said... we're still watching it very close down here..
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (11am p161) Discussions, Analysis

#6890 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:08 pm

RL3AO wrote:Its 115kts but public advisories don't do knots.

115kts = Cat 4

115kts=132 mph which rounds down to 130.


It was corrected to 135mph winds.
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#6891 Postby deltadog03 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:09 pm

still moving at a very quick rate. Im not seeing much to slow it down to the norm 10mph or so
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Re: Re:

#6892 Postby canegrl04 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:09 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
jacindc wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote: Dean hasn't slowed down yet though...still moving at 21mph...and I don't really see how he would slow either. A strong high to the north would equal a fast motion. The only way he would really slow significantly is if he found a weakness or if the high became less powerful (which in turn would also likely lead to more of a WNW or NW motion).


Slowed a touch down to 19 mph in 8 pm advisory.
oh yes, you're right.



19 KNOTS not 19mph.
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#6893 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:09 pm

They revised the 130 to read 135, since 130 is still Cat 3.
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Re: DEAN: Global Models=18z GFDL,landfall in Freeport,Texas

#6894 Postby Frank P » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:09 pm

21.85 mph
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Re: Hurricane DEAN Recon obs

#6895 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:10 pm

Who wants to continue posting the obs? I will take a break. :)
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models=18z GFDL Near Galveston

#6896 Postby timNms » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:12 pm

kozzieman wrote:I see where the GFDL has moved to the W into TX. WWL-TV 4 out of NOLA prepared a nice little video clip on their website earlier today which explained what factors would have to come into play to allow Dean to come up into S central LA but I'll imagine that video clip will be updated soon now that the GFDL model has been shifted further to the W into TX. So I guess the MS Gulf Coast is now considered safe because of that model's recent shift to the W into TX?


kozzieman, I wouldn't base any decisions on what the models are forcasting at the present time. I'd give it until Sunday or Monday before saying that this thing will not affect MS. Right now, it is my understanding that there are several variables that will ultimately decide the course of Dean. If the upper low east of Florida moves more slowly than forcasted, and the high doesn't build in as fast as the models are projecting, Dean could possibly take a more northerly course.
Again, it's a wait and see thing for now. In my opinion, everyone from the Eastern Florida Gulf Coast to the South Texas coast needs to pay attention to the track and intensity of this storm.
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#6897 Postby wxwatcher91 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:12 pm

I dont even think 130mph is used in advisories: 110kts is 125mph and 115kts is 135mph.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (11am p161) Discussions, Analysis

#6898 Postby caribepr » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:12 pm

weatherguru18 wrote:Ok...I'm having trouble here and I don't know what to tell people. I need some help.

Of "The Big 4" three take it to Brownsville and one takes it Laffeyette. My parents are ringing the phone off the hook wondering if they should spend the money to board up. I want to say that this thing will likely take a northly turn due to the Beta Drift and the UUL approaching from the west. However the consistancy with the gfs and others is uncanny at the very least. I just don't know what to tell people. I pray that if it hits, it is apparent that we are the target. I hope it doesn't pull a Rita and begin to turn toward us 36hrs in advance.


Just my opinion here. When we didn't know WHAT Dean was going to do as far as affecting us here on Culebra, everyone I know had plan A and plan B, one for a major, one for a minor. This morning was literally when we decided on the LAST preps (everything else was done, extra foods, propane, batteries, water, etc - we don't have evac, so that wasn't an issue).
I went with minor - still time consuming and a bit costly, as did friends, not even knowing if that would be necessary - because if events turned, the preps would be close enough to keep things good, and a big impact would be too fast, too late, to do something then. The night isn't over yet, and I'm glad I'm home with my business secured, my home secured, yard stuff in order and still a plan to get to a friend's if it gets weird in my very close to the water home (on the *bad* side for surge). If it's for nothing, oh well! That's what we do.
If your parents can afford it...it is the price of peace of mind versus going nuts. If they don't need it this time...they might need it later.
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#6899 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:13 pm

733
URNT15 KNHC 180010
AF302 0504A DEAN HDOB 14 20070818
000030 1348N 06357W 6966 03155 0054 +089 +074 214041 042 037 003 00
000100 1347N 06355W 6967 03153 0054 +091 +071 214040 041 036 001 00
000130 1346N 06354W 6967 03158 0052 +095 +069 210039 040 035 000 00
000200 1345N 06352W 6967 03158 0057 +091 +068 210039 040 034 000 00
000230 1344N 06351W 6967 03155 0060 +090 +066 210038 038 035 000 00
000300 1342N 06350W 6968 03159 0063 +090 +061 210037 037 032 000 00
000330 1341N 06349W 6968 03159 0059 +093 +060 210037 037 033 000 00
000400 1340N 06348W 6968 03158 0061 +094 +053 209036 037 032 001 00
000430 1339N 06346W 6966 03164 0062 +095 +053 207036 037 032 000 00
000500 1338N 06345W 6964 03165 0066 +089 +064 207034 035 031 000 00
000530 1336N 06344W 6968 03160 0074 +083 +070 207033 034 030 003 00
000600 1335N 06343W 6970 03163 0073 +086 +066 205034 035 032 000 00
000630 1334N 06342W 6964 03170 0076 +085 +077 204034 034 032 001 03
000700 1334N 06340W 6965 03171 0077 +085 +076 201035 036 999 999 03
000730 1336N 06339W 6968 03169 0073 +089 +074 198038 038 999 999 03
000800 1337N 06340W 6975 03160 0071 +087 +075 197036 037 034 002 03
000830 1339N 06341W 6965 03165 0070 +087 +071 198037 038 035 004 00
000900 1341N 06341W 6967 03165 0070 +087 +068 199037 038 034 000 00
000930 1343N 06342W 6967 03164 0074 +082 +072 201037 037 035 000 00
001000 1345N 06342W 6967 03165 0071 +084 +071 201037 037 035 000 00
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#6900 Postby MusicCityMan » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:13 pm

I had a feeling they meant to say 135 since they said it's now a Cat 4..

This thing is an absolute monster right now. I'd hate to be out on the ocean right about now..
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