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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
I memorized every country and island nation in the world for usesl ike this. No way an educated person could mistake Jamaica for guatemala. But I guess reports get rushed and someone makes a spur of the moment error.
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AF302 0504A DEAN HDOB 26 20070818
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URNT15 KNHC 180212
AF302 0504A DEAN HDOB 26 20070818
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
Stratusxpeye wrote:vacanechaser wrote:Cape Verde wrote:Here's trusting that models are always wrong. I'm directly in the path of those of those 170 kt winds on that model run, and I don't think my house is built THAT sturdy.
well, it actually does not bring it in to texas that strong.. here it is below:
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I hope you meant not that strong as in the 170knts the previous poster said about his house not being sturdy. Because 145knots I think would be pretty strong. CAT 5 into the Houston area.
yes i meant not that strong as in 170kts..
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
I think somebody said GFDL measures above the surface at 100 feet or something like that. Winds are slightly higher up there.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
jeff wrote:00Z 18 guidance tracks have shifted southward again. Two camps appear to be developing..one deep in the Bay of Campeche and the other aimed at the coast just S of TX...GFDL is very far north. Even the steady right GFS ensembles are starting to trend southward on the 00Z runs. Too early to determine if this is a real trend...need it to hold through Saturday and then we shall know more.
If a more southward trend continues that would be great for Tx! (However horrible for Mexico

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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
We had this on the Sun-Herald website.
Barbour, FEMA warn residents to have a plan if Dean turns toward Gulf
Barbour, FEMA warn residents to have a plan if Dean turns toward Gulf
JACKSON, Miss. --Gov. Haley Barbour and FEMA officials on Friday warned Mississippians to prepare a plan of action in case Hurricane Dean turns and threatens the Gulf Coast next week.
http://www.sunherald.com/news/breaking_news/story/122591.html
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
The 00z GFS ensembles are already out? I thought they came out later this evening alongside or just after the operational GFS run?jeff wrote:00Z 18 guidance tracks have shifted southward again. Two camps appear to be developing..one deep in the Bay of Campeche and the other aimed at the coast just S of TX...GFDL is very far north. Even the steady right GFS ensembles are starting to trend southward on the 00Z runs. Too early to determine if this is a real trend...need it to hold through Saturday and then we shall know more.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
As I said before, I just dont see this storm making much of a turn to the NW or NNW for that matter. It has been traveling on almost the exact same path since formation, and its currently going due west. This sucker might pop out in the Pacific.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis

You can see why "Graveyard of the Atlantic" isn't true for all storms that enter the east Caribbean.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
around 1:30am EDT/12:30am CDT I believe.marcane_1973 wrote:Does the new GFDL model come out at 11 tonight?
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
vacanechaser wrote:
well, it actually does not bring it in to texas that strong.. here it is below:
I can't do knots to mph easily, but I don't think my house would really notice the difference. It might take a little longer to flatten.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
fsusurfer wrote:As I said before, I just dont see this storm making much of a turn to the NW or NNW for that matter. It has been traveling on almost the exact same path since formation, and its currently going due west. This sucker might pop out in the Pacific.
thats because it has had a strong deep layer ridge to its north pushing it along... soo, it could start to feel some pull from the ull near florida... the ridge will be weaker allowing for at least a slight northward bend... i will say this, most times, the nhc errors to the left.. usually the hurricane makes landfall to the right of the forecast track, sometimes with a decent error...
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
Cape Verde wrote:vacanechaser wrote:
well, it actually does not bring it in to texas that strong.. here it is below:
I can't do knots to mph easily, but I don't think my house would really notice the difference. It might take a little longer to flatten.

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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
Read this for an another Hurricane Dean related news story(sorry if already posted many pages to read)
NASA kept a close eye on Hurricane Dean as it churned through the Caribbean Sea on Friday and said it may cut short space shuttle Endeavour's flight if the storm threatens Mission Control in Houston.
The U.S. space agency said it would shorten a planned six-hour spacewalk on Saturday, and look for other ways to get ready for a Tuesday landing instead of the currently scheduled Wednesday.
"We'd really like to protect an option to be able to end the mission on Tuesday," mission management team chairman Leroy Cain said.
NASA kept a close eye on Hurricane Dean as it churned through the Caribbean Sea on Friday and said it may cut short space shuttle Endeavour's flight if the storm threatens Mission Control in Houston.
The U.S. space agency said it would shorten a planned six-hour spacewalk on Saturday, and look for other ways to get ready for a Tuesday landing instead of the currently scheduled Wednesday.
"We'd really like to protect an option to be able to end the mission on Tuesday," mission management team chairman Leroy Cain said.
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AF302 0504A DEAN HDOB 27 20070818
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022000 1329N 06444W 6968 03160 0069 +087 +073 224037 037 032 001 00
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URNT15 KNHC 180221
AF302 0504A DEAN HDOB 27 20070818
021030 1330N 06521W 6965 03156 0065 +084 +065 242033 033 029 000 00
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022000 1329N 06444W 6968 03160 0069 +087 +073 224037 037 032 001 00
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
Don't forget the Caymans. Could be Ivan all over again, or worse.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
I'll will give the FOX guy a pass....as a TV met, I can tell you that you have 25 different things going on at one time, people talking through your ear piece, you might have looked at something right before going on. He could've just looked at a model run and was planning on talking about the southernmost run through Guatemala. Last night I was talking about S. Texas and called it New Mexico. It happens. And I didn't even realize I said it until my director told me after I said it.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
Cape Verde wrote:
I can't do knots to mph easily, but I don't think my house would really notice the difference. It might take a little longer to flatten.
145 kt = 165 mph
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis

Still heading due west. I'm just amazed how rapidly this thing intensified.
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