Henriette (EPAC): RECON discussion

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Henriette (EPAC): RECON discussion

#1 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:33 am

Please use this thread to discuss RECON investigation of Henriette.
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#2 Postby Chacor » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:41 am

They leave from Keesler?
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#3 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:55 am

Chacor wrote:They leave from Keesler?


I think so.
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#4 Postby Chacor » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:57 am

If I remember correctly, during Flossie they left from Honolulu and from San Diego. Would it not be easier/quicker to leave from California than from Mississippi? Or did they have to fly to CA from MS for Flossie?
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#5 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:00 am

For Flossie they departed from Hawaii. By the times it takes to go from MS to Hawaii they wouldn't have any time left to investigate the storm. Nonetheless, Henriette is close enough to MS to warrant a departure from that base.
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#6 Postby Chacor » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:04 am

Sorry, I should've worded it better. I remember Pojo saying that they left from both HI and CA for Flossie. Would it not be easier/quicker to leave for Henriette from California than from Mississippi?
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#7 Postby RL3AO » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:06 am

I think what they did with Flossie was takeoff from California and make a fix thru Flossie and then landing in Hawaii then doing the next fixes taking off from Hawaii.
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#8 Postby pojo » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:00 pm

This is what happened.....During Flossie we flew the storm ENROUTE from Travis AFB (San Fran) to Hickam AFB and then flew out of Hickam. NOT from San Diego.

Honestly, I'm not back at Keesler to find out that question.
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#9 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:54 pm

184630 2019N 10826W 8436 01437 9972 +147 +147 091069 073 058 025 01

73 kts

If we use .90 then we got a hurricane, 65.7 kts.
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#10 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:08 pm

Looks like we have Hurricane Henriette...
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#11 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:17 pm

Vortex came back - 982mb; FL winds 71 kt (64 kt at surface?)
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#12 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:18 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Vortex came back - 982mb; FL winds 71 kt (64 kt at surface?)


71 x .90 = 63.9 kts. Hurricane.
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#13 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:09 pm

According to NRL, this is still a tropical storm:

11EHENRIETTE.60kts-982mb-198N-1083W
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#14 Postby P.K. » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:15 pm

HURAKAN wrote:184630 2019N 10826W 8436 01437 9972 +147 +147 091069 073 058 025 01

73 kts

If we use .90 then we got a hurricane, 65.7 kts.


The standard from 850hPa (1500m) as this is is a 0.80 reduction. That FL wind was not taken at 700hPa (3000m). That gives 58.4kts.
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:16 pm

P.K. wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:184630 2019N 10826W 8436 01437 9972 +147 +147 091069 073 058 025 01

73 kts

If we use .90 then we got a hurricane, 65.7 kts.


The standard from 850hPa (1500m) as this is is a 0.80 reduction. That FL wind was not taken at 700hPa (3000m). That gives 58.4kts.


Thanks. Now I understand why the winds are still 60 knots in NRL!!!
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