Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussion of Recon Data

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Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussion of Recon Data

#1 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:25 pm

Plane is on route towards TD 8.I guess they will hold on upgrade to a storm until the crew reports back what they find.
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#2 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:33 pm

Wow ... I'm a bit surprised this wasn't canceled. Long trip to study a struggling system.
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#3 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:33 pm

Luis, is this the first time the RECON plane goes further east than 55W? Pretty weird seeing them going to TD 8's longitude.
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#4 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:34 pm

x-y-no wrote:Wow ... I'm a bit surprised this wasn't canceled. Long trip to study a struggling system.


Doesn't look like it is struggling so much any more to me. Tighter circulation with convection now around the LLC and banding features on all sides.
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#5 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:36 pm

CalmBeforeStorm wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Wow ... I'm a bit surprised this wasn't canceled. Long trip to study a struggling system.


Doesn't look like it is struggling so much any more to me. Tighter circulation with convection now around the LLC and banding features on all sides.


Well, a matter of perspective, I guess. I'll grant you it looks better than it did this morning. But I'd still call it "struggling."
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#6 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:39 pm

x-y-no wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Wow ... I'm a bit surprised this wasn't canceled. Long trip to study a struggling system.


Doesn't look like it is struggling so much any more to me. Tighter circulation with convection now around the LLC and banding features on all sides.


Well, a matter of perspective, I guess. I'll grant you it looks better than it did this morning. But I'd still call it "struggling."


Semantics I guess but I see no danger of this disapating in the near term and some signs that stengthening might be occuring. To me that's not struggling unless all depressions are considered to be struggling.
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#7 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:41 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Luis, is this the first time the RECON plane goes further east than 55W? Pretty weird seeing them going to TD 8's longitude.


I think so.
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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#8 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:42 pm

I agree it's struggling but it does look slightly better this afternoon. I would not be surprised if they find it's a TS, but I also would not be surprised if they find it's still a TD.

I am a bit surprised this flight actually left though. Very odd.
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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#9 Postby Nimbus » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:43 pm

Convective burst over the center this evening so they will probably find 45 knot winds at the surface. It is a long flight for a storm that the NHC thought was no threat to the islands this morning.
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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#10 Postby canegrl04 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:44 pm

Brent wrote:I agree it's struggling but it does look slightly better this afternoon. I would not be surprised if they find it's a TS, but I also would not be surprised if they find it's still a TD.

I am a bit surprised this flight actually left though. Very odd.


They must see indication TD 8 has a good chance of making it to TS status.Otherwise it wouldn't make sense if this thing was dying
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#11 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:46 pm

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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#12 Postby TheShrimper » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:47 pm

Got to leave for awhile. What time will recon get to TD 8?
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#13 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:47 pm

NOAA quite freuently flies well east of 55W since they frequently deploy from Barbados

The AF deploys from St Croix, which is about 6 degrees farther west of Barbados
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#14 Postby canegrl04 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:50 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image


It better go north pretty quick now to be in line with those two northern most model tracks
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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#15 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:51 pm

TheShrimper wrote:Got to leave for awhile. What time will recon get to TD 8?



Around 7:30-8 PM EDT.
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#16 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:02 pm

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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#17 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:29 pm

I forgot who said this, but someone said that this flight is really to collect new data to help advance the HWRF model, as well as check out TD8
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#18 Postby storms in NC » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:55 pm

Why waist fuel on a TS and it is not near land? I could see if it was a huge hurricane. But this is a TS at most. Just asking
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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#19 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:25 pm

HURAKAN,there haved not been more obs for a while.
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Re: TD 8=Discussion of recon data

#20 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:32 pm

cycloneye wrote:HURAKAN,there haved not been more obs for a while.


I know. It seems there was a problem with the technical equipment. I'm getting used to this kind of problems this season.
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