Tropical Depression TEN: GOM: Recon Discussion

[jasons2k]

Recon Discussion here.

[Chacor]

Uhm, they aren't scheduled to fly until Thursday.

[artist]

chacor - it is ready and waiting!

[cycloneye]

NOUS42 KNHC 182000 AMD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0400 PM EDT TUE 18 SEPTEMBER 2007
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 19/1100Z TO 20/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2007
TCPOD NUMBER.....07-116 AMENDMENT

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (CHANGED)
FLIGHT ONE (ADDED)
A. 20/0000Z
B. NOAA9 01XXA SYNOPTIC
C. 19/1730Z
D. N/A
E. N/A
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: PROBABLE LOW LEVEL INVEST
NEAR 25.5N 88.0W AT 20/1800Z. ANOTHER G-IV MISSION
FOR 21/0000Z (ADDED)

II.PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
SEF

Here is the new plan of missions for this system.

[Swimdude]

Sorry, so what day are they flying in?

[RL3AO]

Take off tomorrow at 1:30 pm ET.

[cycloneye]

Sorry, so what day are they flying in?

The first mission will be a upper enviroment one and that goes around 1:30 PM on wednesday.An Airforce plane will go to 93L on thursday afternoon around 2 PM EDT.

[Dean4Storms]

The system could be over FL by then, won't they cancel at that point?

[sevenleft]

The system could be over FL by then, won't they cancel at that point?

The idea is that by Thursday it'll already have crossed Florida and moved into the GOM. But they'll adjust the flights as necessary.

[wxwatcher91]

The system could be over FL by then, won't they cancel at that point?

I think they can continue upper air flights over Florida, but cant do the lower flights.

[oyster_reef]

no need for flight to get low level readings... you can get those from all the ground stations.
I think it will be VERY unlikely recon will go today.

[Chacor]

no need for flight to get low level readings... you can get those from all the ground stations.
I think it will be VERY unlikely recon will go today.

There are no low-level flights scheduled for today, only an NOAA investigative flight at 45,000 ft.

[Windsurfer_NYC]

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NOUS42 KNHC 191400
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1000 AM EDT WED 19 SEPTEMBER 2007
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 20/1100Z TO 21/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2007
         TCPOD NUMBER.....07-117

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
   1. SUSPECT AREA
      FLIGHT ONE --TEAL 70            FLIGHT TWO --NOAA 49
      A. 20/1800Z                     A. 21/000Z
      B. AFXXX 02IIA INVEST           B. NOAA9 0310A CYCLONE
      C. 20/1630Z                     C. 20/1730Z
      D. 27.0N 85.0W                  D. NA
      E. 20/1700Z TO 2300Z            E. NA
      F. SFC TO 10,000 FT             F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

      FLIGHT THREE --TEAL 71
      A. 21/0600Z, 1200Z
      B. AFXXX 0410A CYCLONE
      C. 21/0430Z
      D. 28.0N 86.0W
      E. 21/0500Z TO 1300Z
      F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

   2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 6 HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM
      IS A THREAT, ANOTHER G-IV MISSION FOR 22/0000Z.

II.PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
   1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
   2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.
                       WVW

[oyster_reef]

no need for flight to get low level readings... you can get those from all the ground stations.
I think it will be VERY unlikely recon will go today.

There are no low-level flights scheduled for today, only an NOAA investigative flight at 45,000 ft.

nothing went?

[HenkL]

They are flying at the moment, dropping sondes. No HDOB.
Mission is called NOAA9 01IIA SURVEILLANCE.

[cycloneye]

20/1800Z
B. AFXXX 02IIA INVEST
C. 20/1630Z
D. 27.0N 85.0W
E. 20/1700Z TO 2300Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

Tommorow morning we will know if this mission will go out or not.If it goes,it departs at 12:30 PM EDT from Keesler Base.

[Derek Ortt]

far more recon is planned than is in the POD

[k4sdi]

far more recon is planned than is in the POD

Care to elaborate?

[Derek Ortt]

manned and unmanned aircraft are scheduled to investigate

[HURAKAN]

538
ABNT20 KNHC 201510
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT THU SEP 20 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT A WEAK LOW PRESSURE AREA HAS
FORMED IN THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO IN ASSOCIATION WITH AN
UPPER-LEVEL LOW. SHOWER ACTIVITY WITH THIS NON-TROPICAL SYSTEM
REMAINS LIMITED AND DISORGANIZED. HOWEVER...THIS SYSTEM HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO ACQUIRE SUBTROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS LATER TODAY OR
TOMORROW AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE WARM WATERS OF THE
GULF OF MEXICO. AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT
IS SCHEDULED TO MONITOR THE SYSTEM THIS AFTERNOON. ALL INTERESTS
ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS
SYSTEM.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER FRANKLIN

Does this mean we will have RECON this afternoon.