OLGA'S remnants : Discussions & Images

[MiamiensisWx]

I couldn't find any evidence of a closed circulation on observations. Satellite loops can be VERY deceiving. You're not looking at the surface. Here's the latest NHC statement:

Can you explain your reasons as to why the circulation near 19.2N and 60W (shortwave floater) isn't a surface entity? I definitely see a swirl, although it isn't entirely closed.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html

Thanks!

[RL3AO]

This was posted by wxman57 a few posts up.

You could just delete it. Wouldn't hurt my feelings.

[wxman57]

Simple - the clouds are not at the surface. They're 1000-2000 feet (maybe higher) above the surface. Any circulation you see is aloft. The best tool to use is surface observations, particularly at night using IR imagery.

I couldn't find any evidence of a closed circulation on observations. Satellite loops can be VERY deceiving. You're not looking at the surface. Here's the latest NHC statement:

Can you explain your reasons as to why the circulation near 19.2N and 60W (shortwave floater) isn't a surface entity? I definitely see a swirl, although it isn't entirely closed.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html

Thanks!

[MGC]

I didn't observe a surface circulation on the latest Quicksat pass, I did not however notice how old it was so perhaps it was old. I don't think there is a surface circulation ATT, however like I said one could be forming......MGC

[HURAKAN]

It's nice that the NHC is doing the STDS as they were TWO.

[cycloneye]

[HurricaneMaster_PR]

Dont see it in the NAVY website anymore...I assume is temporarily...

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html

[Evil Jeremy]

Ah, my second mother (nature) is giving me my holiday gift: Another storm!

Now, any chance that this can help out our drought here in Florida?

[cycloneye]

Dont see it in the NAVY website anymore...I assume is temporarily...

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html

It is at the ATCF page.I assume is a little glitch.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/atcf_web/index1.html

[Evil Jeremy]

Is this thing going to threaten Florida down the road?

[RL3AO]

Is this thing going to threaten Florida down the road?

Apparently not. Wxman says its a bigger threat to Central America than Florida.

[Evil Jeremy]

By the time it gets there, wouldn't a cold front pick it up and bring it NE?

[boca]

I'll be in total shock if 94L makes into Central America especially in December without recurvature to the NE.

[CrazyC83]

That satellite shows deep convection firing on the SE quad...

[Evil Jeremy]

I am readying my forecasts. Here I was, hoping for a fun holiday vacation. This is going to be a long week.

[dixiebreeze]

09/2345 UTC 19.2N 58.3W T1.5/1.5 94L -- Atlantic Ocean

Dvorak gets in on the action!

[TheEuropean]

And here are the new numbers:

10/0545 UTC 18.2N 59.9W T1.5/1.5 94L -- Atlantic Ocean

But nothing new...

[dixiebreeze]

1:05 Tropical Disc. update:

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
105 AM EST MON DEC 10 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN
SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE
AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
IS BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 0000 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
0515 UTC

...SPECIAL FEATURE...
THE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH A BROAD AREA OF LOW
PRESSURE CENTERED ABOUT 370 NM EAST OF PUERTO RICO REMAINS
FAIRLY WELL-ORGANIZED...BUT SATELLITE IMAGES AND SURFACE
OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT THIS SYSTEM HAS NOT DEVELOPED A CLOSED
CIRCULATION YET. THIS FEATURE IS MOVING WESTWARD NEAR 15 KT AND
IS PRODUCING HEAVY SQUALLS WITH GALE FORCE WINDS TO THE NORTH OF
THE SHOWER ACTIVITY. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR TO BE
FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT AND A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL
STORM COULD FORM DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. INTERESTS IN THE
NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS...THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...
HISPANIOLA...AND THE EASTERN BAHAMAS SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS
OF THIS SYSTEM. NUMEROUS MODERATE TO STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM
19N-21N BETWEEN 56W-61W. A GALE WARNING IS ALREADY IN EFFECT IN
THIS AREA. THE GFS COMPUTER MODEL HAS MOISTURE FROM THIS SYSTEM
SPREADING OVER THE NE CARIBBEAN TODAY.

[Coredesat]

00x GFS at 60 Hours South of Haiti.

That's the NAM.

Also, the 12Z Euro didn't have this over the Bahamas, it had a broad, weak low south of Cuba by 96 hours.

[Cyclone1]

Gone from the NRL as of now...

Most likely temporary