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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#221 Postby angelwing » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:59 am

This just came in too :(

Preliminary Earthquake Report
Earthquake details

Magnitude: 6.1
Depth: 10 km
Latitude: 37.37
Longitude: 142.39
Date-Time:


2011-03-15 at 09:49:53 UTC
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 at 18:49 in the evening at epicenter
Location:

Continent: Asia
Country: Japan
State/County/Gov.:
Location: Ukedo
Distances: 120.49 km Course: N
Population: 0 persons [Near the epicenter]
Data source:
EMSC
Data processing and analisys:
RSOE EDIS - Data Processing and Analisys System
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#222 Postby angelwing » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:01 am

Chacor wrote:I have not seen any reports of deaths at the reactor site, and the 88,000 missing has been determined to not be true. The alleged 30,000+ dead is also ridiculously exaggerated. Where are you getting these from?

Latest from BBC:
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1012: The UN's weather agency says Japanese winds are dispersing radioactive material over the ocean, and there is no danger for Japan or the region for now, Reuters reports.



The updates I get via the RSOE EDIS:

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/
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#223 Postby Chacor » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:07 am

Hope I'm not being too rude, but I would really rather trust news services and Japanese authorities than some random Hungarian site. The update claims that 10,000 are feared to have perished in "Minami Sanrik" but correspondents on the ground have indicated that more than half of Minamisanriku's population managed to evacuate to a neighbouring town, and there could be others uncontactable because they are in evacuation centres. The situation there is being over-hyped.

The latest known figure is 2000+ deaths and 10,000+ missing. The evacuation figures seem right though.
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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#224 Postby Chacor » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:08 am

angelwing wrote:This just came in too :(

Preliminary Earthquake Report
Earthquake details

Magnitude: 6.1
Depth: 10 km
Latitude: 37.37
Longitude: 142.39
Date-Time:


2011-03-15 at 09:49:53 UTC
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 at 18:49 in the evening at epicenter
Location:

Continent: Asia
Country: Japan
State/County/Gov.:
Location: Ukedo
Distances: 120.49 km Course: N
Population: 0 persons [Near the epicenter]
Data source:
EMSC
Data processing and analisys:
RSOE EDIS - Data Processing and Analisys System


USGS is carrying this aftershock as a 6.0.
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#225 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:28 am

Chacor wrote:I have not seen any reports of deaths at the reactor site, and the 88,000 missing has been determined to not be true. The alleged 30,000+ dead is also ridiculously exaggerated. Where are you getting these from?



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Let me introduce our services. The Hungarian National Association of Radio Distress-Signalling and Infocommunications (RSOE) operates Emergency and Disaster Information Service (EDIS) within the frame of its own website which has the objective to monitor and document all the events on the Earth which may cause disaster or emergency. Our service is using the speed and the data spectrum of the internet to gather information. We are monitoring and processing several foreign organisation's data to get quick and certified information


http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/read/index ... bout_index

Hmmmmmmm, I'll reserve further comment for now.
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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#226 Postby angelwing » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:29 am

EMSC has it as a 6.1

EMSC > Earthquake > M 6.1 - OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN - 2011-03-15 09:49 UTC
About EMSC
temp
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M 6.1 - OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN - 2011-03-15 09:49 UTC

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/ear ... ?id=213691
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#227 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:32 am

Chacor wrote:The update claims that 10,000 are feared to have perished in "Minami Sanrik" but correspondents on the ground have indicated that more than half of Minamisanriku's population managed to evacuate to a neighbouring town, and there could be others uncontactable because they are in evacuation centres. The situation there is being over-hyped.

The latest known figure is 2000+ deaths and 10,000+ missing. The evacuation figures seem right though.


I don't even like the term 'missing'. I prefer 'unaccounted for' since they could be safe somewhere that doesn't have the ability to report who they have.
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#228 Postby Bunkertor » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:47 am

RL3AO wrote:What is going on with these reactors? Now four of them are having problems. Why can't they get water in there? Thats all they need is water and everything will be fine.


I think the prob might be that the radiation is so high, that it is not or hardly possible to engage pumps there.
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#229 Postby RL3AO » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:58 am

This quake has certainly helped Gadhalfi. No news coverage of his forces taking over all the rebel towns.
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#230 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:03 am

4-month old baby rescued after being taken away from the arms of her parents by the tsunami, incredible story.

Link: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 14267.html
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#231 Postby RL3AO » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:05 am

Wish they would tell us what the temps are inside the reactors. Uranium oxide starts to melt at 3000 degrees Celsius. The outside of the fuel rods melt at 2200 Celsius. When they melt they release hydrogen gas which is what caused the explosions. That hints that the reactors have hit 2200 at some point.

Are they still at that level or have they gotten enough water in to lower the temp?

Their communication has been very poor.
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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#232 Postby Bunkertor » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:21 am

Bus on roof

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#233 Postby Chacor » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:48 am

M6.0 aftershock just reported in Shizuoka, southwest of Tokyo.
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#234 Postby charlesw » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:00 am

It sure seems like it keeps getting worse and worse there
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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#235 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:28 am

My o my,Japan keeps shaking strong.

From BBC:

1435: Following earlier reports, it appears there has been more than one strong aftershock in Japan - AP reports two tremors measuring over 6.0 within three minutes of each other.

1507: A spokesman for Japan's meteorological agency says he does not know if there is a link between the strong earthquakes on Tuesday - including one of 6.0 magnitude - and Friday's massive 9.0-magnitude tremor. He says the epicentres were quite far apart.
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#236 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:34 am

Chacor wrote:M6.0 aftershock just reported in Shizuoka, southwest of Tokyo.

Did they say it is an aftershock? I am not anywhere near an expert on earthquakes, but a quake that is that far(SW of Tokyo would seem to be at least 250-300 mi away from the epicenter) from the original epicenter would be considered separate wouldn't it?
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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#237 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:21 pm

Witnessed extreme carnage in Ishinomaki today, just up the coast from Sendai.

One of the streets near the port:
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Truck smashed into someone's house:
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Even saw a car halfway up a tree - http://yfrog.com/h3109pdj

Resilience, civility and hospitality of the Japanese people is truly admirable. No looting, no chaos, no nonsense - just biding their time and trying to survive / clean up.
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Re: 2011 Sendai Earthquake & Tsunami

#238 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:54 pm

Food safety is a concern in many countries.

From BBC:

1723: India has ordered imported Japanese food products to be tested for radioactivity, food safety authorities said on Tuesday, according to Reuters. Thailand, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore and the Philippines have already ordered similar tests.
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#239 Postby RL3AO » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:36 pm

French nuclear people have called it a level 6 on the nuclear accident scale. Three Mile Island a 5 and Chernobyl a 7.
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#240 Postby RL3AO » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:46 pm

Not sure if it really is a 6 though. Probably a 5. Measured radiation at 1200 millisievert per hour after a fire in the spent fuel pool. Chernobyl was around 250,000 millisievert per hour.
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