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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10321 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:02 am

Here's the latest map of Ike's wind field. Still rather disorganized. Not much hurricane force wind west of the center. Hoping to go through the west side here in Houston:

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour08.png
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10322 Postby sphelps8681 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:03 am

It seems funny that when I was a kid growing up in the 70's in Houston I never recall ever evacuating for a Hurricane.

I live N. of Bmt and gettting last minute supplies yesterday, the consus was it seemed not very many people were leaving. We decided to stay as well.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10323 Postby keithy joe » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:10 am

wxman57 wrote:Here's the latest map of Ike's wind field. Still rather disorganized. Not much hurricane force wind west of the center. Hoping to go through the west side here in Houston:

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour08.png


I expect the yellow banding to expand round the entire core just before landfall with the red hurricane force gradients slimming out slightly and shifting more to the ENE of the eye wall
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10324 Postby Rod Hagen » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:11 am

southmdwatcher wrote:The strongest winds are in the northern semi-circle. Ike can pass 50-70 miles south of Houston and still rake the area with 80-100 mph winds.


Indeed, southmdwatcher. Serious winds are also going to arrive long before many expect them, given the size of the windfield, if they are focusing on the forecast time for "landfall".
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10325 Postby physicx07 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:12 am

wxman57 wrote:Here's the latest map of Ike's wind field. Still rather disorganized. Not much hurricane force wind west of the center. Hoping to go through the west side here in Houston:

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour08.png


TS force winds to 275 miles NE of center!
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#10326 Postby hial2 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:14 am

Rod Hagen wrote:
HurryKane wrote:I didn't see it posted (looked a few pages back) but Houston has decided to tell residents to stay put: http://tinyurl.com/4aumgf



Maybe , given the apparent "trial and error" approach, Houston should open its mind to sending a fact finding mission to somewhere that clearly really knows how to do these things well, and has done for a long time. Like Cuba!

Cheers

Rod


Yes, Rod...history shows how tyrants move the masses,huh?...

Cheers

Mario
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10327 Postby Rod Hagen » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:18 am

wxman57 wrote:Here's the latest map of Ike's wind field. Still rather disorganized. Not much hurricane force wind west of the center. Hoping to go through the west side here in Houston:

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour08.png



That is from a few hours back now, wxman57. Be interesting to see whether the structural changes over the last few hours have made much difference.
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#10328 Postby Rod Hagen » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:25 am

hial2 wrote:
Yes, Rod...history shows how tyrants move the masses,huh?...

Cheers

Mario



I suspect it may have more to do with perceptions of what one has to lose by moving , and the likelihood of crime while you are away, Mario, but I wasn't trying to make a political statement. Somehow there seems to be a lot of uncertainty in the way these things get approached on the US coast of the GOM at present. I'm sure that clearer guidelines wouldn't hurt at all.

Let's agree to focus on the storm for the moment, though, and I apologise if I raised an issue that caused offence inadvertently. Over in Australia we probably have less sensitivity to such things than you have over there.

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10329 Postby physicx07 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:33 am

Watching ABC news, looks like water (it's high tide anyway) is climbing up the Galveston seawall already.
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#10330 Postby AZRainman » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:35 am

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
HURRICANE IKE LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
429 AM CDT FRI SEP 12 2008

...IKE GETS A LITTLE STRONGER...FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE...

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 105 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. IKE IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND IKE IS FORECAST TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE BEFORE THE CENTER REACHES THE COAST.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10331 Postby Sonica » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:36 am

physicx07 wrote:Watching ABC news, looks like water (it's high tide anyway) is climbing up the Galveston seawall already.


Hope the ones that stayed are seeing that too and getting out!
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#10332 Postby Solaris » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:39 am

My latest 2cent:

*Dry air still finds its way into the center though it's less than earlier

*Convection improved significantly during the last 2 hours


Overall, if you compare to yesterday the symmetry of the storm got definitely better, it isn't that loopsided anymore and the good looking outflow features haven't diminshed.

IMO Ike is doing here its final effort to strengthen to a MAJOR, so the next 12 hours gonna be key.

Anyway, if it doesn't, because of its huge size (advanced windfield and storm surge), it's simply a very dangerous storm. In addition to that, that it's projected to hit a very populated area.

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#10333 Postby shah8 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:44 am

Huge eye seems to be trying to form, from the south around again.

NHC track is unbelievably scary. Forcasting a tropical depression to hit Detroit? Even if it's extratropical, it's still a gigantic amount of energy to hit a city!
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#10334 Postby bob rulz » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:47 am

shah8 wrote:Huge eye seems to be trying to form, from the south around again.

NHC track is unbelievably scary. Forcasting a tropical depression to hit Detroit? Even if it's extratropical, it's still a gigantic amount of energy to hit a city!


Extratropical storms tend to be worse than tropical depressions with wind.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10335 Postby weatherwindow » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:52 am

yesterday afternoon someone posted a link to houston network tv feeds...does anyone still have it...thanks for your help....rich
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#10336 Postby shah8 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:54 am

Reading the recon thread is frightening. 150 mile diameter + of hurricane winds? That DWARFS Katrina.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10337 Postby AZRainman » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:55 am

weatherwindow wrote:yesterday afternoon someone posted a link to houston network tv feeds...does anyone still have it...thanks for your help....rich


I put them here too:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=103167
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#10338 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:56 am

physicx07 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Here's the latest map of Ike's wind field. Still rather disorganized. Not much hurricane force wind west of the center. Hoping to go through the west side here in Houston:

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour08.png


TS force winds to 275 miles NE of center!


Yeah, but look at the hurricane force wind field - very disorganized and only right of the center.
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#10339 Postby KWT » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:57 am

Ike seems to be trying to ramp up for one last time, nearly got 18hrs to strengthen another 10mph and that shjould be do able.

The other thing, convection really is getting quite deep now.
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#10340 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:57 am

shah8 wrote:Reading the recon thread is frightening. 150 mile diameter + of hurricane winds? That DWARFS Katrina.


Not entirely true, see the HRD wind analysis. Very little hurricane winds west of center, and disorganized east of center at least as of 0130Z. In no way does this dwarf Katrina or Rita.

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2 ... tour08.png
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