ATL HANNA: Extratropical - Discussion

[webke]

anyone want to see a pic of a LLC elongated big time?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/vis-l.jpg

reminds me of an elastic band being stretched to the max, then ..........snap

Do you think that her LLC can get it 's act back together, or has the shear from the ULL finally taken it's toll, in my opinion it looks like it is losing it's strength.

[Bocadude85]

I wonder if the models could be turning Hanna NW to soon because they are making her to strong to quick?

[HURAKAN]

Gus' little sister!

[Sanibel]

I speculated that Gus and Hanna would affect each other by being that close. To be honest I thought it would keep Gus down to category 3 maximum. It appears what happened was Gus boosted the effect of the ULL onto Hanna and kept Hanna down. Gus is ripping those SST's into a monster right now. I guess Hanna will stay weak until Gus is done. What I worry about is being in Hanna's track here in SW Florida and having it strengthen just as Gus leaves the scene.

This should be recorded as reference to close storms in the Caribbean/GOM.

[cpdaman]

anyone want to see a pic of a LLC elongated big time?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/vis-l.jpg

reminds me of an elastic band being stretched to the max, then ..........snap

Do you think that her LLC can get it 's act back together, or has the shear from the ULL finally taken it's toll, in my opinion it looks like it is losing it's strength.

tuff to say , but those that think she is looking good now, aren't looking at the picture clearly

the ULL is sliding SSW and is STILL barely nw of hanna who's LLC has a stubborn habit of heading west, except for the eastern side of her LLC which has been elongated NE (Giving the impression of a N movement) fay was a land lover, hanna is a shear lover, she has her biggest test right now, perhaps by later tonite she will finally be NE of ULL (last nite when she took a close sniff of the ULL she dove south a full degree, which didn't help her in this task, so who knows what happens this time, but the ull is going to be doing it's closest pass as i type

on hurrakan last loop i think i heard a snap on the last frame

[webke]

anyone want to see a pic of a LLC elongated big time?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/vis-l.jpg

reminds me of an elastic band being stretched to the max, then ..........snap

Do you think that her LLC can get it 's act back together, or has the shear from the ULL finally taken it's toll, in my opinion it looks like it is losing it's strength.

tuff to say , but those that think she is looking good now, aren't looking at the picture clearly

the ULL is sliding SSW and is STILL barely nw of hanna who's LLC has a stubborn habit of heading west, except for the eastern side of her LLC which has been elongated NE (Giving the impression of a N movement) fay was a land lover, hanna is a shear lover, she has her biggest test right now, perhaps by later tonite she will finally be NE of ULL (last nite when she took a close sniff of the ULL she dove south a full degree, which didn't help her in this task, so who knows what happens this time, but the ull is going to be doing it's closest pass as i type

on hurrakan last loop i think i heard a snap on the last frame

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

[HURAKAN]

Loop: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 170257.GIF

Still popping.

[Blown Away]

Some of the 18Z models loop Hanna near 72W.


The 11am 5 day NHC track is near 76W. Seems for now the NHC does not seem to have alot of confidence in this loop theory because they don't reflect these loops in their track at all. Just a slight WSW movement in response to the building ridge. Obviously this could change but for now I think the NHC does not have alot of confidence in the latest models.

[bahamaswx]

Well, one has to concede that the models have handled Hanna pretty terribly thus far. That's probably one of the lowest confidence forecasts I've seen in a long time.

[Bocadude85]

I must say Hanna looks very sick right now.. that may change tonight but I do not see her getting as strong as the models are saying.. Im thinking at max a strong tropical storm/Cat 1

[vacanechaser]

I must say Hanna looks very sick right now.. that may change tonight but I do not see her getting as strong as the models are saying.. Im thinking at max a strong tropical storm/Cat 1

we herd that with gustav when he was not looking so good either the other day... not saying she will reach cat 4, but dont write it off...



Jesse V. Bass III
http://www.vastormphoto.com
Hurricane Intercept Research Team

[Philly12]

I must say Hanna looks very sick right now.. that may change tonight but I do not see her getting as strong as the models are saying.. Im thinking at max a strong tropical storm/Cat 1

After further review I agree. Still fighting the ULL.

[Derek Ortt]

And there is a huge anti-cyclone building over Hanna.

it is likely to take up a large part of the subtropical western Atlantic in the coming days. Should be much larger than Gustav (and Gustav is becoming a very large storm itself)

[cpdaman]

ull low has made much progress South south west today

http://hoot.metr.ou.edu/satellite/GOES-12/Carib/WV

LLC is still holding on, next 2-3 hours are key i don't think a LLC can stretch any more , something has to give

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html


if she holds on and doesn't dive South then she should have less relative shear over the system by evening (but still fairly high) and a better shot sunday at intensification

[cpdaman]

And there is a huge anti-cyclone building over Hanna.

it is likely to take up a large part of the subtropical western Atlantic in the coming days. Should be much larger than Gustav (and Gustav is becoming a very large storm itself)

derek quick question , if her LLC opens up , would you anticipate her forming another one as conditons seem like they will be getting more favorable by sunday

[wxwonder12]

Derek, probably dumb question but what does that last comment that you made mean. thanks

[gatorcane]

Derek's comment of a large anticyclone means the upper-level winds are becoming favorable for Hanna to intensify. She's been kept in check by a Upper-Level Low but that low is filling in and being replaced by the anticyclone. Also Hanna is likely to be a large cyclone as noted by Derek's comment.

[Bocadude85]

wonder if Hannas large size could pump up the ridge and force her more wsw then forecast?

[Derek Ortt]

And there is a huge anti-cyclone building over Hanna.

it is likely to take up a large part of the subtropical western Atlantic in the coming days. Should be much larger than Gustav (and Gustav is becoming a very large storm itself)

derek quick question , if her LLC opens up , would you anticipate her forming another one as conditons seem like they will be getting more favorable by sunday

its not close to opening up. Not an issue

[Derek Ortt]

Derek, probably dumb question but what does that last comment that you made mean. thanks

means we will be dealing with a VERY LARGE storm. Global models indicated this