ATL HANNA: Extratropical - Discussion

[meteorologyman]

Can you guys fill me in on Hanna at this point I have to get back to work in 15 min. so I don't have time reading everything?
intesified or weaken lot little or no shear etc....


thanx

[BigA]

My statement would be pretty much holding steady in intensity right now, getting a little better organized as shear is starting to fall, expected to slowly strengthen, move to west, then northwest. Shear will be main deciding factor in how strong it gets.

If you are a pro, or are more learned, please override these statements.

[fci]

Do you think it now has the potential to become stronger than a TS?

Excuse me, but what are you talking about?

This one from the models thread:

Do you think SE FL / Broward is out of the picture now?

Are you just asking questions to see how many answers you can get??????

As things get busy, I would suggest that you read and learn more than toss out questions like the ones above
I'm all for asking questions but you really should put a little more thought into the obvious questions you are tossing out there.
People rely on this board for information or to ask thought-provoking questions

Potential to be stronger than a TS?
READ the answers to tons of questions and discussions on this board and take the time to read the advisories and discusssions!!

Is SE Florida out of the picture?
You know that is a RIDICULOUS question!

PLEASE STOP.

This storm and others are way too serious for this little game you are playing.
People rely on this board.

Enough said.............

[HURAKAN]

REPEATING THE 800 PM AST POSITION...22.8 N...67.3 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

Crazy Hanna!

[fci]

REPEATING THE 800 PM AST POSITION...22.8 N...67.3 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

Crazy Hanna!

OK, and North- Northwest makes absolutely NO SENSE at all.

[Grease Monkey]

Do you think it now has the potential to become stronger than a TS?

Excuse me, but what are you talking about?

This one from the models thread:

Do you think SE FL / Broward is out of the picture now?

Are you just asking questions to see how many answers you can get??????

As things get busy, I would suggest that you read and learn more than toss out questions like the ones above
I'm all for asking questions but you really should put a little more thought into the obvious questions you are tossing out there.
People rely on this board for information or to ask thought-provoking questions

Potential to be stronger than a TS?
READ the answers to tons of questions and discussions on this board and take the time to read the advisories and discusssions!!

Is SE Florida out of the picture?
You know that is a RIDICULOUS question!

PLEASE STOP.

This storm and others are way too serious for this little game you are playing.
People rely on this board.

Enough said.............

Fci I feel there's a deeper issue in the reply above. I know you're very stressed, but this is not the time to panic. We just need to take a deep breath and relax. Life is too short for all this worrying when nothing is yet set in stone.

[cpdaman]

REPEATING THE 800 PM AST POSITION...22.8 N...67.3 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

Crazy Hanna!

OK, and North- Northwest makes absolutely NO SENSE at all.

please explain what you are talking about or your reason

[storms in NC]

REPEATING THE 800 PM AST POSITION...22.8 N...67.3 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

Crazy Hanna!

OK, and North- Northwest makes absolutely NO SENSE at all.

It is NNW they just write it that way

[jinftl]

I think the question goes to why the storm is moving NNW when guidance showed a W to even SW movement coming up. The NNW movement seems to defy the forecast logic and prevailing steering patterns.

REPEATING THE 800 PM AST POSITION...22.8 N...67.3 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

Crazy Hanna!

OK, and North- Northwest makes absolutely NO SENSE at all.

It is NNW they just write it that way

[WhirlWind]

fci - wow take a chill. Everyone deals with stress in different ways. I have always told everyone since the begining of this board that they can come here and ask questions without being made to feel stupid. I may have to rethink this after this posting.....Take a deep breath, this is going to be a long week for all of us.
WhirlWInd

[tolakram]

0000Z

[cpdaman]

something is going on that is hard for me to discern on the loops- maybe someone can clear it up

her LLC is seen going NNE then N then nw and then finally W = a total of NNW when adding all movement up.

can see that pretty clearly on the visible and the IR2 although in the last frame it appears to be turning back to the west (no doubt this weird movement is do the interaction w/ the ull)

however to the SW of the llc we have convection which i can't tell wether it belongs to the ULL or the LLC, because the ull appears to be partially over hanna but dropping Southward, and the convection is moving in a way consistent with the ULL rotation (not exactly with the LLC) IMO

almost looks like the ULL and the LLC are almost stacked (with the ull center being about 50 miles sw of the LLC) i am probably wrong in this interpretation but something odd appears like it is going on.

[Grease Monkey]

LLC relocating cause just a temporary sudden more northward track or do u guys think the overall track is going to shift further right?

[NFLnut]

I've been out of the loop since yesterday on Hanna. Last I saw (until now) is that they had it making a sharp left to SSW. Now, contrary to the spaghetti models where some still show a loop, the NHC is deviating from almost all of those models? I don't get it!

[Bocadude85]

its a center relocation not really a movement...

[gatorcane]

fci - wow take a chill. Everyone deals with stress in different ways. I have always told everyone since the begining of this board that they can come here and ask questions without being made to feel stupid. I may have to rethink this after this posting.....Take a deep breath, this is going to be a long week for all of us.
WhirlWInd

FCI brings some realism on this board so I think he's inline...he is not stressed out about the storm but more stressed about the erroneous comments made about the storm. Let's just watch and happens with Hanna. I'm rooting for a deflection just east of Florida out to sea.

[jinftl]

By right, do you mean a turn to the NE or E in the near future? That would not be likely given current steering set-up.

This is probably a reorg of a weak system bouncing around.

:uarrow:

LLC relocating cause just a temporary sudden more northward track or do u guys think the overall track is going to shift further right?

[sfwx]

[Bocadude85]

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html


seems to be right on the NHC track to me

[cpdaman]

ok appears clearer now

LLC is just NE of ULL ull center appears to be 22.8 69

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-wv.html

the convection is not wrapping around the SW part of hanna, that is the ULL wrapping convecton around itself (south side) as it sinks South .........i believe

hanna center apperas to be about 23 68 on ir2 , lots of dry air entrained can be seen around her center of WV above, convection displaced to the NE and EAST

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-ir2.html

should be getting further and further away from the ULL so long as the LLC does not do anything weird like dive S.....................this is my opinion look to pro's for real info