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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS run shortly

#163 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:48 pm

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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS run shortly

#164 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:04 pm

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Falls apart earlier than 12z run. Fell apart at 96 hr on 12z. Seem the GFS is seeing shearing that will affect the system.
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#165 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:10 pm

canetracker - The system doesn't fall apart any earlier than on the 12z run. Take a look for yourself and compare...

12z run for Thursday AM = http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_096l.gif
00z run for Thursday AM = http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_084l.gif

When looking at the models, it is important to keep in mind that 96 hours on the 12z run is equal to 84 hours on the 00z run. They both depict the same moment in time (12z Thursday morning).
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#166 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:13 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:canetracker - The system doesn't fall apart any earlier than on the 12z run. Take a look for yourself and compare...

12z run for Thursday AM = http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_096l.gif
00z run for Thursday AM = http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_084l.gif

When looking at the models, it is important to keep in mind that 96 hours on the 12z run is equal to 84 hours on the 00z run. They both depict the same moment in time (12z Thursday morning).

You are correct and I am seeing double I am so tired. Just had to stay up and see the outcome.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#167 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:15 pm

GFS has been pretty good, so maybe we should consider the possibility 92L will fizzle at some point. My gut's telling me different.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#168 Postby boca » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:17 pm

114 hrs still heading WNW north of DR.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_114m.gif
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#169 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:18 pm

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#170 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:19 pm

The 00z GFS has the 850mb vorticity of this system located in the southern Bahamas by very early (around midnight) Saturday morning...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_126l.gif
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#171 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:19 pm

GFS still holding on at 126, though it goes over the mountains of east Cuba...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_126m.gif
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#172 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:22 pm

I didn't think this invest was the one to watch, thought it was the rest of the wagon train.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#173 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:24 pm

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156 hr south of Florida around the keys
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#174 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:26 pm

At 6 days out, the center is shown to be over Cuba: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_144l.gif

But 500mb steering seems to suggest that a northward turn is on the way. There is a strong trough sitting over the central U.S. extending well into the GOM: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_144l.gif

By early Sunday AM, the center seems to be strengthening south of FL: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_156l.gif

Trough starts to push east, suggesting the more northward turn is probably imminent: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_156l.gif

Hmm. May be it will not try and turn north that soon. By Late on Sunday, the model shows the system just off the NW tip of Cuba: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_156l.gif

500mb flow still shows the trough though, so I doubt this will continue too far westward: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_168l.gif
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#175 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:28 pm

850mb view at 156 hr
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#176 Postby boca » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:29 pm

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#177 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:29 pm

Could easily shoot through the Florida Straits if the GFS is close to right.
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#178 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:31 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:Could easily shoot through the Florida Straits if the GFS is close to right.

Could be that it will do that, Sleepiness is gone and I am awake now.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=00z GFS rolling in

#179 Postby canetracker » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:32 pm

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850mb level @ 168 hr
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Things are getting interesting!!!
500mb level:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/00/images/gfs_500_168l.gif
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#180 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:34 pm

The one thing that is apparent is that we can't *rule out* a hit on South FL and then on into the Gulf of Mexico. Most of the waves we've investigated this year could have these possibilities reasonably ruled out.

*Could be* a major problem for someone close to home, to say nothing about the islands.
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