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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1721 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:08 pm

cat5canes77 wrote:Breaking news: Recon finds a W wind!!!!!


Um...269 at 1kt. Not impressed.
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#1722 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:08 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:1-knot west wind found.


Ill take it! :wink:
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#1723 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:08 pm

As it happens there isn't a huge amount of shear to its west right now, its still fairly marginal but its not nearly as high as 30-40kts further north which the recon plane may wlel have flown through.
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#1724 Postby Brent » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:08 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:1-knot west wind found.


Oh WOW... :P Watch out islands! :wink:
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#1725 Postby Just Joshing You » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:10 pm

omg category 6 west wind found barbadoes is obliterated
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#1726 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:10 pm

Is this the first time all three colors have been used at the same time?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1727 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:10 pm

wxman57 wrote:Here's a surface map with a satellite overlay from my workstation. Note the WSW sea breeze in Trinidad. There are outflow boundaries west of Barbados from the collapse of thunderstorms near the wave axis in the past few hours. I can't find any LLC in the obs or on satellite, but I don't doubt that there's an area of light/variable winds along the wave axis south of 12N.

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I believe you are way off, center has been found near 59W!!!!!!
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#1728 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:10 pm

Brent wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:1-knot west wind found.


Oh WOW... :P Watch out islands! :wink:



Someone down there must have farted...
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#1729 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:11 pm

Well I'm not sure about that west wind NDG, it was flagged so it may be suspect, I think another pass through will resolve that issue.
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#1730 Postby Bertha08 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:15 pm

So guys, even if this did develop wouldn't it likely head into Mexico or central america?
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#1731 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:17 pm

Bertha08 wrote:So guys, even if this did develop wouldn't it likely head into Mexico or central america?


As the great philosopher Kevin Garnett said, "anything is possible".
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#1732 Postby Bertha08 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:18 pm

Well most of the models are hinting towards, that but I guess it's still to far off?
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#1733 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:18 pm

Plenty of evidence of a light W & WSW winds found, considering how fast this is moving, it is a closed circulation.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1734 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:19 pm

NDG wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Here's a surface map with a satellite overlay from my workstation. Note the WSW sea breeze in Trinidad. There are outflow boundaries west of Barbados from the collapse of thunderstorms near the wave axis in the past few hours. I can't find any LLC in the obs or on satellite, but I don't doubt that there's an area of light/variable winds along the wave axis south of 12N.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/94LObs.gif


I believe you are way off, center has been found near 59W!!!!!!


If you mean the crosshair, that was an earlier NHC estimated position. I didn't mean to imply anything by it. Just forgot to move it.
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#1735 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:19 pm

Bertha08 wrote:Well most of the models are hinting towards, that but I guess it's still to far off?


The steering flow would suggest that an open wave (which is most likely will be) would go into Central America.
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#1736 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:25 pm

RL3AO wrote:
Bertha08 wrote:Well most of the models are hinting towards, that but I guess it's still to far off?


The steering flow would suggest that an open wave (which is most likely will be) would go into Central America.


of course, 99% of tropical waves moving through the caribbean move east to west. It's if 94L can deepen into something significant than things get more interesting down the road especially if it goes west or makes that turn to the N. GFS at day 5 is currently progging a trough to move through the Great Lakes weakening and pushing the Western Atlantic ridge eastward. That could allow a turn to the North in the long-run but lots of IFs before we get that far. Much too early to say for sure...stay tuned.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L near the Windward Islands

#1737 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:27 pm

Pressure down to 1010mb at Barbados at 2pm. Still reporting a NNE wind:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/TBPB.html
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#1738 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:27 pm

The biggest IF of course is that it forms at all, I think though if it does form Gatorcane its likely going to remain with the way shear is progged to be, does seem to be progged to remain pretty high in the Caribbean, as wxman57 said 30-40kts is being progged which is killer shear really IF that occurs.
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#1739 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:28 pm

NDG wrote:Plenty of evidence of a light W & WSW winds found, considering how fast this is moving, it is a closed circulation.


I would argue that if the plane had flown through 94L between Sunday night and yesterday morning it would have found a well-defined LLC. Just light and variable winds along the wave axis now, though.
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#1740 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:29 pm

Looks like we may have our next tropical cyclone, I also guess that we may have a tropical storm already given the sorts of estiamtes we've seen recently....mind you I do hear that the west winds are flagged...we will see!
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