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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1761 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:18 am

AdamFirst wrote:Does the GFS have an intensity report?


No it does not, that's why there is the gfdl that run out of the gfs.
But the gfs is still coming out with maybe some light southerly shear in 24-48hrs, but I am not too sure if it will affect it too much, especially if it starts moving parallel to it may not feel the effects.
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#1762 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:54 am

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#1763 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:29 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:New GFS = South Florida Landfall!

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _078.shtml


no way, lol...what is channel 7 going to do without bill kamal
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1764 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:33 am

If all but two models make FAY landfall in south florida then that mean the track shifts eastward if I am not mistaken. Thought models are doing a great job!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1765 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:36 am

hurricanefloyd5 wrote:If all but two models make FAY landfall in south florida then that mean the track shifts eastward if I am not mistaken. Thought models are doing a great job!!!!!!!!!


oy yeah, the models were awesome yesterday, they were great picking up the flow
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#1766 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:44 am

New GFDL WAY EAST over Lake OKeeChobee to NC!
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#1767 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:44 am

New gfdl big shift east, 30 miles west of Miami
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1768 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:45 am

06z GFDL:


WHXX04 KWBC 161128
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL STORM FAY 06L

INITIAL TIME 6Z AUG 16

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 18.6 71.6 275./12.0
6 18.8 73.3 278./16.4
12 19.1 74.4 288./10.7
18 19.3 75.4 281./ 9.0
24 19.7 76.3 291./ 9.5
30 20.2 77.3 295./10.8
36 20.9 78.1 312./10.5
42 21.5 78.9 310./ 9.7
48 22.4 79.6 320./10.8
54 23.4 80.4 322./13.0
60 24.1 80.8 328./ 7.4
66 25.0 80.7 7./ 9.6
72 26.2 80.9 353./11.7
78 27.2 80.6 14./10.5
84 28.4 80.4 12./12.0
90 29.4 80.3 4./10.0
96 30.3 79.9 24./ 9.2
102 31.5 79.6 13./13.0
108 32.7 79.2 22./12.1
114 33.5 78.7 28./ 8.9
120 34.2 78.5 21./ 6.8
126 34.9 78.2 20./ 7.8


BIG SHIFT EAST
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1769 Postby Toyota Thundra » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:49 am

:eek: WOW No subtle change there :eek:
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#1770 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:49 am

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WOW. Look at the GFDL. I was expecting the cone to possible shift westward today. I'm really surprised.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1771 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:50 am

6z/16 GFDL loop

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

BTW, I don't buy it yet.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1772 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:52 am

That latest GFDL run looks screwy. I don't see any strong trough to pitch it NE nor does the orientation of the mid-level ridge look correct. Either that ridge will be oriented N-S or N-NW-S-SE. Just doesn't add up with the upper air patterns. Now personally I'd like this storm to go inland well south of me but the track looks strange to me.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1773 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:53 am

Thunder44 wrote:6z/16 GFDL loop

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

BTW, I don't buy it yet.


Why Thunder?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1774 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:53 am

Thunder44 wrote:6z/16 GFDL loop

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

BTW, I don't buy it yet.



Looks Hard to believe but the GFS,EURO,and Now GFDL have shifted East...1100 AM Track has to have thid making landfall in SW FL AGain...Although weaker prob..
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1775 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:57 am

Thunder44 wrote:6z/16 GFDL loop

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

BTW, I don't buy it yet.


Me neither, the gfdl has been right bias with recurving storms, for example Bertha. I think that the NHC track is still a good bet.
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#1776 Postby Trader Ron » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:58 am

The GFDL run looks a little screwy, but who knows. In any event, The Keys could take quite a whack.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs=06z GFDL Shifts East

#1777 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:59 am

Take a look at 500mb. At 84hrs, the trough moving off the East Coast bypass the storm already before it moves north of 30N. I don't buy it making a sharp turn after hitting South FL, then racing northward along into the Carolina coast:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#1778 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:00 am

GFDL Strength Model out yet?
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#1779 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:00 am

Trader Ron wrote:The GFDL run looks a little screwy, but who knows. In any event, The Keys could take quite a whack.



Yeah especially Key West.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs=06z GFDL Shifts East

#1780 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:01 am

Here is the 06z GFDL animation that ends with second landfall in the Carolinas.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation
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