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#1921 Postby captain east » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:58 am

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Considering Hanna is moving WSW and seems to be losing lattitude --- and the shear is blowing strong North to South....I don't see Hanna making a sharp NNW turn, sorry.

I'm leaning towards a solution closer to the UKMET and ECMWF.

That means I'm on board with Florida in the target zone, including the entire SE coast of Florida and E Coast of Florida, yes I said it.

I agree with you 100%
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1922 Postby Grease Monkey » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:59 am

gatorcane wrote:It's prudent not to concentrate on the line. It wouldn't take a left shift or a series of small left shifts here

NHC discussion snippet:

ALL INTERESTS IN FLORIDA SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR THE FORECASTS FOR
HANNA SINCE ONLY A SLIGHT DEVIATION TO THE WEST OF THE OFFICIAL
TRACK COULD BRING THE CENTER OF HANNA MUCH CLOSER TO THE FLORIDA
EAST COAST AND THE BAHAMAS THAN CURRENTLY INDICATED.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 0848.shtml
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#1923 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:00 am

gatorcane, indeed the center seems to have relocated somewhat towards the deep convection and that has also dragged it a little further south of where it is.

The models are very keen to lift this out to the NW, but the key thing is obviously the further west it does get the further south the main threat zone will be unless it lifts out sharper than expected.

I think everyhwere in the SE must watch this system!
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Re: Tropical Storm Hanna=SSD Dvorak T Numbers 3.5/3.5

#1924 Postby StJoe » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:00 am

gatorcane wrote:
mawolf3 wrote:S FL completely out of TWC's cone.


TWC "cones" are very small and the NHC cone should be used.


First of all Gatorcane, great reply. If we learn nothing else this season, let it be that we have not perfected a track as of yet. Lord knows I love the guys/gals at the weather channel, but sometimes they get a little out of control with all the chaos; I guess they do it for the ratings against CNN, Fox, blah, blah, blah. I really think SoFla has to keep an eye on Hanna and the train that is behind it. I will agree with TWC's Dr. Lyons about South Florida being the number 1 region for Canes to hit. Gotta love Cantore up there in Houma.
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#1925 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:01 am

Here's a close-up of Hanna, seems WSW at a decent speed still:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html
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Re: Tropical Storm Hanna=SSD Dvorak T Numbers 3.5/3.5

#1926 Postby meteorologyman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:01 am

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slowly, but maturely it looks like my wosrt case scenario(few pages back or more) is coming to play, though not sure about landfall as of now, and still not sure how fast it will intensify
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#1927 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:02 am

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She moves, she swings!
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#1928 Postby Trader Ron » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:02 am

That means I'm on board with Florida in the target zone, including the entire SE coast of Florida and E Coast of Florida, yes I said it.

Gator, I'm taking the other side.

A track into the Linas...

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Re: Tropical Storm Hanna=SSD Dvorak T Numbers 3.5/3.5

#1929 Postby mawolf3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:04 am

No met here just a weather enthusiast but I dont think s. fl is out of the woods yet. Christ is briefing now about Hanna on Baynews 9
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#1930 Postby captain east » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:05 am

gatorcane wrote:Here's a close-up of Hanna, seems WSW at a decent speed still:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html

Do you have a estimation on how fast it's moving, all I know is that it is over 2 mph?
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#1931 Postby Trader Ron » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:05 am

Dang, I was writing as the Accu track was posted.

Can i change my forecast?

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1932 Postby mawolf3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:05 am

oops Crist I mean lol. Worried about more flooding in Fl if Hanna comes close
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1933 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:05 am

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1934 Postby Philly12 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:07 am

WSW movement is indicated in the NHC track. The NW turn is expected 2am Tuesday. That is the benchmark timeframe. If WSW or W continues into the day tomorrow SFL becomes more of a target.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1935 Postby Grease Monkey » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:08 am

Philly12 wrote:WSW movement is indicated in the NHC track. The NW turn is expected 2am Tuesday. That is the benchmark timeframe. If WSW or W continues into the day tomorrow SFL becomes more of a target.


Any info on how fast she's moving?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1936 Postby MBismyPlayground » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:09 am

yup, I will follow ya'lls lead....A fla track would work well for me too. Now if all those little models would follow as well I could rest happy for the next week.
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#1937 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:09 am

gatorcane wrote:Here's a close-up of Hanna, seems WSW at a decent speed still:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html


first thing that caught my eye is that nice looking feature out in the central atlantic, gustav is going to fall off the radar screen here real quick with all of this development
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna in Western Atlantic

#1938 Postby mawolf3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:10 am

Philly12 wrote:WSW movement is indicated in the NHC track. The NW turn is expected 2am Tuesday. That is the benchmark timeframe. If WSW or W continues into the day tomorrow SFL becomes more of a target.


The models are showing this and then Fugate said an exceleration to the NW?
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#1939 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:10 am

if you look at this animated progression of the NHC cone....for Hanna. All I see is the whole cone shifting west overall. Of course it was bending SW now NW...but the whole cone envelope keeps shifting west. I think the models could very-well be overdoing the weakness..at least the GFDL and HWRF.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2008/gr ... p_5W.shtml
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#1940 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:10 am

I don't think she's going to make the turn that soon. She looks to be moving too quickly.
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